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Offlineselfinfliction
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Registered: 08/11/04
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fastest strain?
    #2991642 - 08/11/04 04:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

a couple of questions, i've only been doing this hobby for a few weeks now and i'm ready to start my next cycle as soon as i get my first batch in the grow chamber.

this first shot was b+, and it is running kind of slow, but it's ok. my next batch i want to get fairly fast if possible, but i don't want any weak strains. i've read about cambodian and brazillian were really fast, but how are they as far as potency? also if htose aren't very strong what would you guys recommend that would be good for growth on cakes?

thanks in advance


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Offlinefugu
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: selfinfliction]
    #2991691 - 08/11/04 05:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

have you got an incubator?


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Offlinefauzet
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: selfinfliction]
    #2991699 - 08/11/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Try Koh Samui. They seem to be vigorous colonizers. As far as potency goes, the strain dosen't seem to be the biggest factor here IMO. I think this has more to do with growth perimeters.

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Offlineselfinfliction
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: fugu]
    #2991877 - 08/11/04 05:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yes i am using an incubator at the moment, but the heater went out and i didn't know it until today, so i put a new one in and turned it up to 86.  i know this first batch is kinda slow, but i'm in no hurry, this is my first batch ever and i want it to work, so i'm being patient.  so far all 6 jars took, no signs of anything but white :smile:


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Offlineselfinfliction
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: fauzet]
    #2991885 - 08/11/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

really, i thought the strains were a major player in this?


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OfflineSpudz76
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: selfinfliction]
    #2991889 - 08/11/04 05:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Check out the descriptions of strains on www.thehawkseye.com, very good info there.

And yeah the Thailandese Koh Samui's are supposedly the very fastest and can turn out a harvest starting from spores in less than 30 days.  Even faster I would suppose if you use mycelium culture techniques and innoculate with mycelium directly to skip the couple days of germination.  Hawk's Eye has a substrain they call "Koh Samui Super Strain" which on top of being the fastest ever is very resistant to contams.

Just remember when dealing with Thailand, don't walk through any doors sideways, or you will Bangkok. :smile:


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: selfinfliction]
    #2991891 - 08/11/04 05:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

B+ stall a lot.

Ecuidor, Cambodia, Oissa and the Thai strains are nice.


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: Spudz76]
    #2991906 - 08/11/04 05:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The KS Super strain are okay, but they are not near as contam resistant as advertised. They do very well against the green mold, but average to poor as far as bacterial contams. There colonizing speed is above average, but my foaf has had combodians blitz past them on several occasions. As for potency, generally speaking, a cube is a cube. Like stated earlier, it has more to do with growth parameters.


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: QandA]
    #2991954 - 08/11/04 06:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

QandA said:
As for potency, generally speaking, a cube is a cube.



thats right! the differences between one strain and another(potency wise) are virtually unnoticeable.


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Offlinescatmanrav
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2992723 - 08/11/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You could notice just as much fluctuation from shroom to shroom of the same strain...

Brazilians are FAST, 11 days from spores to casings. Z's were also fast, 13 days from spores to casings. Cambos are going slow for me but I think it was my water content (to high). Still no fruits from Z or Brazils but they should be pinning any day now.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2992928 - 08/11/04 09:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You might want to kill that link...Shroombay isnt a sponsor dude


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2992964 - 08/11/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

WHen I flame people... moderators can change what I say... making me look like a dumbass.

I guess I got off easy this time.


Edited by Cervantes (08/11/04 11:51 PM)


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Offlineselfinfliction
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: yada_yada]
    #2993043 - 08/11/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

lol, i know what you're saying man


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: yada_yada]
    #2993074 - 08/11/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

yada_yada said:
shroombay isn't a sponsor?

i thought this website was cool, but no one can post sites that isn't a sponsor?  what kind of bullshit is that?  so is that a warning to all of us that if you don't give this website money, their website has no information that can be helpful?

well fuck you you bunch of money hungry bitches.


I think I'll have to partially agree with that...ahhh rebellion, isn't it great. It's what we're founded on, isn't it???! If it is a good site, then the shroomery needs to be brought to their attention. It would be a great source of business for them and also great for the shroomery. But in the same breath if they dont like the shroomery, then fuck'em! :rockets:


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: QandA]
    #2993260 - 08/11/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Shroombay isnt but sponsers can go sell on shroombay so maybe they are? If a mod tells me theyre gonna start having issues with me if I dont change it I will but I dont see it being a problem.

QandA Shroombay was recently started and knows of the shroomery. It is run by some over on the MMF (a uk board) and would like shroombay associated with the shroomery but to become a sponser you must pay the shroomery and they are just starting out so its tough. Its not like a vendor where you are selling things, its just like ebay but for shroom supplies. This means if people arent listing then people arent buying and if people arent buying people arent listing, its a vicious cycle but its not meant to take away from sponsors here but to bring everyone together more. Anyone can go and buy stuff there but they can sell it too..

I dunno where I was headed with this cause I'm really stoned but if its a huge problem, I'll remove it but I'd ask that you at least review the site first if I lost you, its not meant to steal business, only aid it.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2993311 - 08/11/04 11:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I dont care whats in your sig...If one of the sponsors sees it they might not like linking to another mycological supplier thats not a sponsor


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Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
Paw Paw be thy Name....
My friends are thirsty


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2993370 - 08/11/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry dude, Al's right... we aren't allowed to post any vendors in here unless they are Shroomery vendors... except, I suppose, if the vendor sells things that do not infringe on what Shroomery sponsors sell.

Simply, we have to kiss vendor ass because they give The Shroomery $$$.

It gets more complicated than that, but this is not the forum for such discussion.

Anyway, please change your signature line.

And have Shroombay contact The Shroomery Administrators if they want to post their url here.


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: Rose]
    #2996027 - 08/12/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

ShroomBay isn't a vendor and they don't sell spores or supplies themselves. I don't think the shroomery has ever had problems with posting links to auction sites like ebay before.

Shroomery vendors can sell on shroombay also, and I don't see why they wouldn't. They can price their products the same as they already do, so it could only increase profits.

I think the best deal would be for each site to host reciprocal links or banners. That way shroombay could get to the point where they could become sponsors. Another good idea would be to have the shroomery host a shroombay banner in excange for shroomery vendors getting top product placement on the auction site. Ebay does something like this already.


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Re: fastest strain? [Re: fastfred]
    #2996109 - 08/12/04 04:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That link sucks, I just checked it out. VERY STUPID And nobody is bidding nore are they going to.

THATS MY 2 CENTS


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Offlinenegative
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Re: fastest strain? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2998814 - 08/13/04 03:04 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

went to shroom bay, what a weak ass site.


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