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Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York!
    #2989030 - 08/11/04 01:31 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.c...ubsection=world

Volcano could flatten US cities

August 11,2004
By STEVE CONNOR
A volcano in the Canary Islands which could send a wave as high as Nelson's Column crashing into the major population centres of America's east coast is not being closely monitored, a scientist has warned.

Experts predict that the volcano of Cumbre Vieja on the island of La Palma could send a massive slab of rock twice the size of the Isle of Man crashing into the Atlantic Ocean.

The effect would be to generate a monster wave travelling faster than a jet aircraft and with the energy equivalent to the combined output of America's power stations working flat out for six months.

After travelling across 6430km of the Atlantic for about nine hours the tsunami would hit the Caribbean islands and the east coasts of Canada and the United States with devastating effect.

The wave would stretch for many kilometres and would sweep into the estuaries and harbours for up to 32km inland, destroying everything in its path.

Boston, New York, Washington, DC, and Miami would be virtually wiped off the map and tens of millions of people killed, said Professor Bill McGuire, director of the Benfield Grieg Hazard Research Centre at University College London.

McGuire said that close monitoring might at best provide two weeks' warning of the disaster but that despite knowing about the danger for a decade, no one was keeping a proper watch on the mountain.

The two or three seismographs that have been left to pick up signs of movement in the rock were not capable of detecting a looming eruption weeks in advance, he warned.

"What we need now is an integrated volcanic monitoring setup to give maximum warning of a coming eruption," McGuire said.

"The US Government must be aware of the La Palma threat. They should certainly be worried, and so should the island states in the Caribbean that will really bear the brunt of a collapse.

"They're not taking it seriously. Governments change every four to five years and generally they're not interested in these things."

A monitoring station equipped to look deep into the heart of the mountain and spot the early signs of an eruption might cost hundreds of thousands of pounds.

In comparison, the US was spending US$4 million ($6.1 million) a year scouring the skies for kilometre-sized asteroids which were much less of a threat, McGuire said.

The Cumbre Vieja volcano last erupted in 1949 and its western flank is highly unstable. It could split apart next time it erupts, which could be at any time in the next 1000 years.

Any evacuation plan would have to be based on the forecast of an eruption, since once the collapse happened it would be too late, he said.

Yet it could be a false alarm. Several eruptions could come and go before one of them sent the mountainside crashing into the sea in a matter of minutes.

McGuire acknowledged that the decision to evacuate the eastern seaboard of the US would not be an easy one. "I don't honestly know how we handle that," he said. "As scientists all we should really do is advise people of what we think the risks are."

Trying to stop the mountain collapsing was out of the question, he said. He has calculated that it would take 35 million years to dig out the dangerous part of the volcano and move it away.
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=549820
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/10/science.volcano.reut/index.html
http://www.cdnn.info/article/volcano/volcano.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3553368.stm


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2989166 - 08/11/04 02:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

good thing im in wisconsin and next to my lake michigan.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2989185 - 08/11/04 02:31 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

im in ohio...it may become beach front property :smile:


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2989193 - 08/11/04 02:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

no shit. that thing isn't going to make waves in texas....

not that I'm saying we shouldn't worry about it just because it won't directly effect me....I'm just saying good for me i won't be directly effected.

Onemorerobot on the other hand.....


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2989211 - 08/11/04 02:39 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

haha, new beach house!

that would be crazy if like new york was underwater but the sky scrapers were peaking out of the water. Scuba diving in a city underwater, haha.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2989236 - 08/11/04 02:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that would be crazy, but it wouldn't work that way, it would crash into the city destroying stuff and then recede....leaving puddles everywhere amidst rubble...


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2989242 - 08/11/04 02:50 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

uhoh, i live on way out on the east coast of new york haha, shit


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: Locus]
    #2989252 - 08/11/04 02:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

think about this...they obviously don't have the proper warnings in place yet, so it could be happening right now....or tomorrow. Not only that, but even when they do put them in place they may not send out the warning message for fear of causing mass histeria in the event of a false alarm....Ponder on that as you go to sleep....

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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: Hooty]
    #2989291 - 08/11/04 03:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

or would if it happened all of a sudden. You would have a few hours (it says it will go faster then a jet airline) to get away, and i don't know how they will alert NYC and everywhere else if it happens all of a sudden and in the middle of the night.



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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: Hooty]
    #2989293 - 08/11/04 03:11 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

and where would they all go if they did announce the warning...here in the midwest...nice, sparse populations would turn into a cluster fuck like the east coast...might buy some land...mark it up at an ungodly rate and then rent it or sell it...


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: SoDak_Stranger]
    #2989301 - 08/11/04 03:13 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yeah. Instead of Nuclear Shelters and stuff their will be a new market for Wave Shelters.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: SoDak_Stranger]
    #2989303 - 08/11/04 03:13 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

there's no way everyone would make it out....even if there was an entire day's warning.....or two maybe even.....there's just not enough ways out of manhattan island for something like that....there's be people swimming out for sure and then having no ride from there....


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2989312 - 08/11/04 03:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I live in Miami and I am prepared to die.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: Hooty]
    #2989314 - 08/11/04 03:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Traffic is alreadya bitch in NYC (from what i have heard) so an event like that you would get NO WHERE in a car, you would be better off riding a bike or something like that probably.

This is one wave that i think would pull your swimsuit down.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: d33p]
    #2989317 - 08/11/04 03:16 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I live in milwaukee...and i'm trying to live for ever and so far its going good.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2989318 - 08/11/04 03:17 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Its the reason why blowing a nuke at the base of the crysler building would kill so many people. No one could get off the island to escape the fallout.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2989322 - 08/11/04 03:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I tell you what I'd do if I lived in florida, well, I'd probably just go to west florida, which would probably be safe, but what would be more fun is just get an infaltable raft, putting it in a big open field by the beach with a life jacket on and all my absolutle nessisry possesions packed in vaccum packed plastic bags tied to floaters tied to the raft and just riding it out.....that would be a hell of an adventure.


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    #2989328 - 08/11/04 03:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'll just escape in my L-29 (an experimental Russian fight jet).


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: Hooty]
    #2989329 - 08/11/04 03:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i think you would fall off of your raft..that would be one wicked wave going faster then a plane and going 35 miles inland.

When i was white water rafting we went down a 14 ft. waterfall and flipped over, that was one hell of an adventure.



Think of being in a boat/ship in the middle of the ocean when that happens and you aren't expecting it.


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Re: Volcano Threatens To Destroy New York! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2989347 - 08/11/04 03:23 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

KingOftheThing said:

Trying to stop the mountain collapsing was out of the question, he said. He has calculated that it would take 35 million years to dig out the dangerous part of the volcano and move it away.






that's unbelieveable...you would think we would be able to implode the mountain or blow a portion so it wouldn't be so severe...


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