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OfflineMadtowntripper
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Any martial artists?
    #2982235 - 08/09/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Any of you pubbers practice any martial arts? I ask because I'm looking at my schools Rec & Sports offerings for the semester and I have a few extra free credits i could use. I take canoeing and kayaking and camping, but a martial arts course would be neat.

Anyway, I'll list the choices available and I'd love some feedback if you've taken any of them in the past and enjoyed it.

Aikido
Brazilian Jui-Jitsu
Capoeira
Karate
Kendo
Okinawan Kobudo Weapons: Bo and Sai
Russian Martial Arts (?) WTF are these?
Shaolin Kung-Fu
Tae-Kwon-Do
T'ai Chi Ch'uan (I thought this was more like a yoga thing?)
Wing Chun Kung Fu (Funny Name)

I'm not sure I'll take any of them, but they're free, so i might as well take advantage of it whil ei have the chance.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982267 - 08/09/04 05:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'd take kick boxing or russian martial arts(im pretty sure their the crazy combat they teach their soldiers. ive seen some videos, its good stuuff)


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: barfightlard]
    #2982315 - 08/09/04 05:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't take any martial art's, and i'm not a martial artist

I did take 2 years of Judo, at Marine Military academy, then the following couple years I was a Boxing instructor, So, I know a little bit about Martial Arts, and here it is

Tae-Kwon-Do: is the regular standard "karate" that you take, like when your a kid so you don't get stolen by strangers..

Kendo: You have big bamboo swords, and armor, VERY expensive armor, at that, and each time you strike your opponent, you score a point.

Wing Chun Kung Fu: Wing Chun is a Style of kung fu..., this is kind of like the matrix, but of course not so animated, and all that stuff
movements are wide.

Shaolin Kung-Fu: Shaolin is a type, again, It's more like closer to your body (the movements), you keep your hands and feet pulled in, because Shaolin style, developed on boats, and when your fighting kung fu on a boat, you don't want to fall off, or so I was told.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982319 - 08/09/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a green belt in Shorin Ryu karate. I'd love to learn Kung Fu, as a matter of fact I'll take lessons soon.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982357 - 08/09/04 05:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on what you want to accomplish.
Personally, I would go for either the Jiu-Jitsu, Tai Chi, or Wing Chun.
Aikido is all well and good but it takes years and years of training to progress much at all in it.

Tai chi-chuan I'm sure you are familiar with.. it's the slow motion arm moving techniques and such you will see chinese people practicing. For health and "inner balance" reasons that would be your best pick imo. Tai chi is more meditation than anything... but Tai Chi martial applications are the same as you see them practicing, only 50 times faster. It is very effective. However, most tai chi practicioners use it stricly for meditation and balance.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is something I think everyone should know. It is brazilian full submission wrestling. 9 out of 10 fights go to the ground and jiu-jitsu will give you the edge. It is miles beyond any form of standard wrestling as was based around Judo, and expanded from there. Jiu Jitsu will teach you a variety of valuable skills, such as how to put someone in an arm bar, or choke them out, even if they are on top of you. Jiu Jitsu teaches us that being smaller or in a worse position than someone, does not necessarily mean we will lose. If you ever watch UFC, brazilian jiu-jitsu is pretty much the standard now that every fighter must know, and it all started from the Gracie family from Brazil who developed this form of fighting and took it worldwide and made it one of the most effective fighting styles. Skilled jiu-jitsu fighters can go against practically any martial artist and still come out on top. For example Rickson Gracie was undefeated in the Brazilian full-contact NHB fighting ciruit, and Pride.. retiring with over 480 wins, 0 losses. Definitely, if you want to learn some skills you can take home with you, study jiu-jitsu.

Wing Chun Kung Fu is also very practical. This is basically the martial art Bruce Lee was taught at a young age, and was the foundation for what he used to develop his style and Jeet Kune Do. Without getting too deep into it, there is a technique in Wing Chun called Chi-Sao.. or "Sticking Hands", which is absolutely the coolest thing to watch or learn. Wing Chun Kung Fu is a very effective martial art for you standing fighting techniques. It will teach you balance and defense and fluidity, and how to strike back like a cobra. Shaolin Kung Fu is also very nice.

Anyway, I personally would choose from one of those three since those are the ones I have the most personal experience and training with. I'm familiar with most of the things on that list and let me tell you to not waste your time with Karate or Tae Kwon Do. Aikido is very impressive, but once again, takes many years to achieve any desired level of proficient skill. Jiu Jitsu is something you can get results from in several months, if you put your mind into it. It is also a skill that is very good to have in any fight, street fight or ring. It teaches you to dominate your opponent on the ground.

Anyway, I suggest you look into these a little more and decide what it best for you. Because they are each a little different in their own ways. But the best martial art is a combination of many arts and styles.. I am just pointing you to the direction I think is best based on my personal experiences.

Tae-Kwon-Do, at best, will teach you how to kick hard and high. At worst, it will teach you all the wrong moves, and detriorate your real fighting. Tae Kwon Do is sport fighting, judged by points. You do not bring Tae Kwon Do into a real fight unless you are really fucking good, and know other martial arts, or you like to get your ass kicked. Same with Karate. Although I can't generalize that because there are many different forms of Karate and some do have merit. And sometimes the Karate guys can stand up in the ring for more than a minute against some of the MMA guys.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982374 - 08/09/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

We study kuk sool won (traditional korean joint locks/breaking and lead along techniques... painful), aikido, and judo.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982392 - 08/09/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I know that Paul Stamets is :laugh:


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: barfightlard]
    #2982405 - 08/09/04 05:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know about the Russian Martial Arts.. that's pretty vague. That could mean several things..

Basically, there are three levels of Russian Martial Arts they teach the Spetsnaz soldiers. And I guarantee that this class would not be teaching you the military (highest) applications of their martial art. At best you would learn the inferior Civilian style, that is for the general public.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982643 - 08/09/04 06:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The instructor from the Russian Martial Arts is called "Manko". He certainly sounds like a spetznaz trained killer.

What about capoeira? I recall seeing that on the history channel or some such. I was under the impression it was more of a dance style, or like, a ritual type thing without much contact?

I recall seeing 2 guys doing this, and it looked like the intent was to come very close to hitting the other person, but not quite do so. Very beautiful to watch, but it is a legitimate fighting style?


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2982691 - 08/09/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I know very little about capoeira.. other than it is from brazil and like you said, almost like dancing. Though I have a friend that took it for a while and I'm going to his house now so I'll ask him about it.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: ivi]
    #2982953 - 08/09/04 08:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

really........ any idea what style(s) he studies?


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2983054 - 08/09/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I busted a beer bottle over this longhair in Gilleys once...
He said he knew martial arts :evil:


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2983317 - 08/09/04 09:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I studied Wing Chun for a few years and practiced it enough to get all of the basic principals down well. It is a very practical and effective means of self defense. It concentrates on the redirection of force so that the defender may gain superior balance and control over his opponent by using the opponents strength in his favor. I never perfected the sticky hands tecnique ,but I plan on starting to train again soon and I hope to work on it more extensively. This tecnique is absolutely fascinating to watch in action! It is also a style of kung fu which doesnt require the agility of an acrobat to become effective!

Good Luck with what ever you chose weedhopper!


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Mykey]
    #2983341 - 08/09/04 09:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I study Aikido and have found it very rewarding. In fact, I'm leaving for Japan tomorrow to go study.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #2983343 - 08/09/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Holy shit I'm jealous. Have a shitload of fun!


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #2983351 - 08/09/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you my friend, I'm sure I will. I'll tell ya all about it when I get back in 2 weeks.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Mykey]
    #2983389 - 08/09/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Aye.. Shaolin kung fu is much more broad, sweeping movements and flying around than tight and centered like Wing Chun. Sticky Hands is the 'play' to wing chun as Push Hands is the play for Tai Chi.. it is amazing, especially when you watch two high level practicioners go at it, it is so fast and fluid.

Here's a clip of bruce lee casually practicing some chi-sao http://www.wtkungfu.com/Pages/Gallery/Video/BruceLee.mpg


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2983414 - 08/09/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have been in extensive martiel arts all of my life. I am a strong believer in respect, and i always looked for the instructor that demanded and deserved the most respect. I've taken MuaTai (Thailand kick boxing) and i've taken Wom Gem Pi, there are only 2 school in the us for it, and it is absolutly my favorite, because it is a life style. Unfortunitly you did not list either of these, but i have done Tae kwon do, and to tell you the truth, i did not like it, but it has been around for hundreds of years, invented by the Koreans, so it is effective. Shaolin kung fu is also another one that i like very much, you have to have ALOT of discipline, and if your just looking to jurt people, martial arts are not for you. Martial arts is not fighting, it is a life style, invented to better people, through discipline and hard work. You will leanr more then you cna imagine. Good luck, and just go in with an open mind, if you go in and the instructor is only teaching you how to hurt people, they are not worth your time. My suggestions would be:
Shaolin kung fu
T'ai Chi Ch'uan

Good luck with it and i hope you can find the same love for martial arts as i have.


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2983425 - 08/09/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alounacara said:
I busted a beer bottle over this longhair in Gilleys once...
He said he knew martial arts :evil:



I swear he kinda looked like this guy


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Texas is humongus compared to France
Our Gair, who art in Texas,
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My friends are thirsty


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Re: Any martial artists? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2983426 - 08/09/04 10:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Haha!


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