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Will flooding ruin shiitake logs?
    #2982212 - 08/09/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've got a bunch of oak logs i innoculated with shiitake plugs in march, about 5 months old. Today i have 3 feet of water in my backyard with everything but the topmost logs completely submerged. Are my logs ruined?

And on a related note, we've been having a lot of rain lately. Do i need to protect those logs from the rain?

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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: sporgasm]
    #2985103 - 08/10/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Submerging shiitake logs is common practice. You should be thankful! I've read that a 48 hour soak is used by some to initiate flushing. If it's too early for them to come out, it will serve to hydrate the log. It sounds like a good accident!


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: sporgasm]
    #2985515 - 08/10/04 12:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

mother nature is just helping you out :wink:


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: jellynutz]
    #2991203 - 08/11/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i wouldn't sweat it. just don't let them sit in it for too long (maybe >72 hours). i mean, you do want the bark to stay on. prolonged soaking is actually far more beneficial than simple surface wettings which only serve to promote growth of unwanted mold/fungi and actually increases the rate at which internal moisture evaporates.


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: sporgasm]
    #3025753 - 08/19/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i just got back into my house after the flood

computer survived :smile:

shiitake logs, mother nature must have taken, they're all gone :frown:

that puts me back at square one  :bitch:

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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: sporgasm]
    #3038781 - 08/23/04 09:44 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

so, wtf? did they float way or were they pilfered?


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: debianlinux]
    #3153943 - 09/19/04 10:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If they were under water, I don't see what would have kept them from floating away.

Sorry, thats too bad.

How long after plugging the logs can ya expect fruit?


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: jethro]
    #3155177 - 09/20/04 12:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If you plug them in the spring and give them optimum conditions, they can fruit already in the autumn.


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Re: Will flooding ruin shiitake logs? [Re: jethro]
    #3155201 - 09/20/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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jethro said:
How long after plugging the logs can ya expect fruit?




that variable depends on many others.

species of wood
diameter of log
inoculation rate
incubation temperature
beginning and ending moisture content

assuming optimal conditions on a 4"-6"dia log you can expect as little 4-6 months.
assuming less optimal conditions such as "incubating" outdoors throughout the colder months and/or a conservative inoculation rate you can expect something more like 12-18 months.
larger diameter logs impart a significant colonisation delay. i've heard as much as 6-12 months per inch.

i do know a person who uses 20"-30" dia logs that are permanently set with individual soak tanks under them and machinery to raise them out for harvesting. apparently the indoor incubation and high inoc. rate gets them up to production in as little as 4 years. the productive lifespan is extended greatly. he has yet to find the EOL on any logs with the oldest having been productive for over 10 years.


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