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    #2981772 - 08/09/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i<m incubating in the tub in tub, and will use tub in tub for my terrarium aswell, this is my heat source but the thing is, i leave about 9 hours a day for work, is this too long to wait for an air exchange, can this harm ? or do i need some sort of auto air exchange...any suggesttions would be greatly appreciated. also, is sporelab trust worthy, cause i ordered off them nearly a week ago and still no confirmation
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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2981780 - 08/09/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yes, you need a more automated terrarium like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinke...amp;postmarker=


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Re: air exchange [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2981838 - 08/09/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hey myco, umm looks good but wont i need holes for co2 to get out if i allow air to go in with the air stones? and do you think that would work considering i use tub in tub? last question is, he uses geolite, is perlite ok?

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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2981874 - 08/09/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

>>>> hey myco, umm looks good but wont i need holes for co2 to get out if i allow air to go in with the air stones?

as long as the lid doesn't have a perfect seal then it will be just fine.

>>>> and do you think that would work considering i use tub in tub?

yeah, but you really don't need to heat your tub unless you live in the arctic.

>>>> last question is, he uses geolite, is perlite ok?

yup. perlite works ok, but you should only use it if you can't find/afford geolite.


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Re: air exchange [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2981896 - 08/09/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hmm, well money aint a problem so geo it is, well my room averages 58% humidity, and i figure if i shut my window i can get about 20 or 22 degrees celsius, ill try to find a converter online so i can get what 86f is and all that, and i guess i can make myself suffer by turning on the heating lol
your help was greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2981913 - 08/09/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You don't NEED to have automated air exchange, but it does help. Air holes for CO2 ro escape aren't necessary either, as the airstones will continually mix the CO2 and 02 molecules, plus the tubs are not airtight, and meaning there will be a constant influx of O2 to replace that being used by the shrooms. Yes perlite should work also.
If the room temp where your fruiting chamber is kept is in the 70's, you don't need the second tub to add heat, as the ideal fruiting temp is in the mid 70's


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2981933 - 08/09/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

give me a break..... you most deffinately do need automated air exchange. fanning is for people who have no lives and sit by their terrarium every waking minute.


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2981934 - 08/09/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

things are starting to seem way less complicated then i thought, as long as sterilisation is maintained, and the basic guidelines.


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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2981951 - 08/09/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

lollllllllll myco by the way, nice tits!! LOL
and i have a life, and job so i guess ill go with the air stones.
hmm, which makes me think, do i still fan if i use airstones?


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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2982306 - 08/09/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

No need to, unless it just makes you happy


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Re: air exchange [Re: KaptKid]
    #2982433 - 08/09/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Needed: 1. A condition or situation in which something is required.
2. Necessity, obligation.
To say that one needs automated air exchange implies that automated air exchange is necessary for the sucessful cultivation of mushrooms. IT IS NOT. Automated air exchange is not NEEDed, but as I said earlier, it helps. There is no need to try to flame people over such silly things as your incorrect use of the English language. :tongue:


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2982489 - 08/09/04 06:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Noeton said:
Needed: 1. A condition or situation in which something is required.
2. Necessity, obligation.
To say that one needs automated air exchange implies that automated air exchange is necessary for the sucessful cultivation of mushrooms. IT IS NOT. Automated air exchange is not NEEDed, but as I said earlier, it helps. There is no need to try to flame people over such silly things as your incorrect use of the English language. :tongue:


Damn, newbie with an attitude... I can tell you now that an automated system is NEEDED for maximum yields if he can't fan it but every 9 hours. Myco's just trying to help someone get the best yields. Just because Shangrila is new to cultivating, it doesn't mean that he has to get shitty yields!! You NEED NOT show up here and in 1 day start flaming the veterans. Mycopsyco has proven himself, you have not. I'm being nice, the others may not be.


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2982503 - 08/09/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i haven't even begun to flame. btw i said more than just "you most deffinately do need automated air exchange". there was another sentence after that one stating why i said it was a must! if you would have read both sentences you wouldn't have needed to quote the dictionary mr. webster.


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Re: air exchange [Re: shangrila]
    #2982650 - 08/09/04 06:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Fruiting is right around 20C and incubator is around 30C, converted for ya. Sounds like your general room temps are great for fruiting, so just set up the PMP and put it in a spot that's near 20C, give them a few hours of light a day (or use a light above, on a timer) and you should be good to go. They don't need lots of light, because they aren't plants, just so they can guess better which way is "up".


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Re: air exchange [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2982651 - 08/09/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Im not trying to be hostile towards anyone here on the shroomery. There are so many people here who have taught me much. And I am very greatful for that.
I do agree that automated air exchange is very benefitial, and does indeed increase yields, while making the cultivators life easier. Because I don't agree that it's necessary and not optional, does not necessarily mean that I am a have no life, am a newbie to cultivation, or that I don't appreciate the convenience of a fully automated terranium.
Although, I haven't been posting on here for long under this name, I have a student of mycology for many years. I'm not claiming to be a pro or an expert, as I am always learning from others. In time maybe I'll "prove" myself to some of you, but in the meantime, I'll just keep reading, posting, and learning.


Edited by Noeton (08/09/04 06:57 PM)


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2982671 - 08/09/04 06:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll just keep reading, posing, and learing.



yeah, i think ur a poser


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Re: air exchange [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2982690 - 08/09/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Damn. I set myself up for that one. post edited.


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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2982700 - 08/09/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll just keep reading, posting, and learing.




yes, learning is key as knowledge is power.(change your post again, learing isn't polite!)


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Re: air exchange [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2982717 - 08/09/04 06:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Just take the big ass bottle of O2 outta the garage and pump that shit into the Chamber..........

Mushies love it........and they don't care if it ain't medical O2!

there! no need for fanning

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Re: air exchange [Re: Noeton]
    #2982722 - 08/09/04 06:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Noeton said:
Im not trying to be hostile towards anyone here on the shroomery. There are so many people here who have taught me much. And I am very greatful for that.
I do agree that automated air exchange is very benefitial, and does indeed increase yields, while making the cultivators life easier. Because I don't agree that it's necessary and not optional, does not necessarily mean that I am a have no life, am a newbie to cultivation, or that I don't appreciate the convenience of a fully automated terranium.
Although, I haven't been posting on here for long under this name, I have a student of mycology for many years. I'm not claiming to be a pro or an expert, as I am always learning from others. In time maybe I'll "prove" myself to some of you, but in the meantime, I'll just keep reading, posting, and learing.


Cool with me... One thing that you'll learn, if not already, is that shroomerites stick together. It's a tight knit community here, and you're welcome to become a part of it, but just watch how you talk to respected members.


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