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Psilocybe cubensis "Mexican" PF-Tek cased
    #2971837 - 08/06/04 11:51 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

[Note: subj is edited to show updates, but main post is unchanged.  See subsequent entries for log updates)

I?ve never attempted a grow before, so all of this is new to me.  Lots and lots of reading? thanks to the great teks and grow logs here at the Shroomery!

This is mostly text at the beginning except for a photo on today?s entry.  I figured you guys have seen all the prep stuff a hundred times.  I?ve been following the teks to the letter, so no surprises there.

Jul 8 ? inoculated 4 PF-style jars, Mexi-cub strain.  Standard PF tek.  Was bored waiting for spores to arrive, so I prepared them almost a week ahead of time.

Jul 13 ? first day of observable myc growth.  Incubator is at a constant 80 degrees.

Jul 20 ? Twelve days since inoculation.  2 jars at 90%, 2 jars at about 50% colonization.

Jul 21 ? Decided to inoc some more jars, this time with rye berries.  Used Magash?s simple grain tek.  My PC isn?t big enough, so I used ? pints.

Jul 25 ? I?m bored, so knocked up 3 extra BRF/verm jars with a thai strain.  Leaving in a few days, so why not get some more jars going while I?m gone? I also decided to prepare a 50/50 coir/verm casing for the PF cakes. 

July 26 ? All 4 of my original PF jars appear 100% colonized (the first two have been like this for a couple of days already).  Also, the rye jars are showing observable myc growth.

Jul 27 ? I am leaving tomorrow, so I decided to birth the first two PF jars.  They have been at 100% for about 4 days.  Used crumble & case tek with my pre-made casing mixture.  Put into fruiting chamber, misted, and covered loosely with plastic wrap.

Aug 3 ? Returned home to discover a lovely colonized casing.  Patched about 5 half-dollar size spots.  Misted again and re-covered with plastic wrap.  Turned on the air pump/humidifier setup.  Also the rye jars are nicely colonizing, so I shook them vigorously and put them back into the incubator.

Aug 4 ? Cased the remaining two PF jars that were knocked up on July 8.  Rye jars already recovered and grew some more, so I decided to go ahead and case them too (separately from the PF cakes of course).  Now I have three separate casings sitting in my fruiting chamber. 

The first casing is already poking through again, but this time very evenly.  So I have removed the plastic wrap and turned on the air pump/humidifier/lighting setup.  I am using a variation of the Poor Man?s Pod, running the lighting for 6 hours per day.  RH is at about 90% (my gauge is a cheapo that only reads about 85%, so I am guessing it?s higher ? there is condensation on the sides of the tub).    Since the other two casings aren?t ready yet, they are covered with plastic wrap and foil.

Aug 6 ? Both the second PF casing and the rye casing need patching this morning.  Wow, they are growing fast!  Patched and re-covered.  The first casing is looking very good.  There are some vertical strands of mycelium in little groups all over the casing.  I understand that this is where pins form, so I am very excited!



Also, the three Thai jars that I started on July 25 are at about 50% colonization.

That?s it for now.  Hoping to have some pins soon!  :smile:

S2b


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (Pre-pinning stage) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2972482 - 08/06/04 03:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Looks promising!


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (Pre-pinning stage) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2976901 - 08/07/04 10:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Fantasic for you first grow man


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (Pre-pinning stage) [Re: Treefiddy]
    #2978892 - 08/08/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the encouragement, guys.  Today I uncovered the other two casings and patched 'em up again.  Hope to see some pins on the first casing soon.

I've got some houseguests at the moment so stealth mode is in force. :shiftyeyes: Will update with new pix when something measureable happens (and I have a few minutes alone with my new babies... )


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2990678 - 08/11/04 10:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Aug 10 ? Woo-hoo!  First tiny pins today!  When I fanned the chamber this morning, I didn?t notice? but then when I fanned again at about 2pm, I noticed a couple of tiny primordia.

I know that you guys know what I mean when I say my pulse quickened and I got a big smile on my face!  I?m giddy with anticipation.  I can visualize the whole tray full of yummy fatties, and I can hardly stand it.  This is exciting!

Sorry no pic, but my houseguests are still here, and I can barely get in there to fan them, let alone do a photo shoot.  Damn.

Aug 11 ? Awoke early this morning to find a gorgeous pinset.  There are so many I can?t even count them all?  All this is in the first casing, a 9?x5? container that I cased from the initial two PF cakes on July 27.

This first photo shows my entire fruiting container.  The batch we are talking about is the upper right.


Here is a close-up of the pinning casing.  This is from 2 crumbled cakes?
  :thumbup: :thumbup:

And for you pin-porn fans, here?s a close-up of the lower-left section from this same casing.


:mushroom2:  :mushroom2:  :mushroom2:

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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2990734 - 08/11/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

They're looking really promising!

Great job!


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2991076 - 08/11/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

outstanding job 4 a 1st attempt.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2991583 - 08/11/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

>And for you pin-porn fans, here?s a close-up of the lower-left section from this same casing.


:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :shocked: :blush: :laugh: :grin: :tongue: :wink:

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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shirley knott]
    #2992392 - 08/11/04 06:03 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

dam thats allot of pins! Is that overlay i see? I find having too many pins they tend to abort more. But to each his own.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2993069 - 08/11/04 08:21 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Nope.  No overlay that I can tell.  But there are lots more tiny dots that will probaby be more pins...

And regarding "too many pins" I don't think there is a whole lot I can do about that! :crazy:  I'm just glad that I've got 'em, know what I mean?  :crazy2:  :grin:

Thanks for the feedback; keep it coming everyone!

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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2994736 - 08/12/04 07:23 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

well everything does look overlayed. Thats ok though, ive never seen any problems with it.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2994968 - 08/12/04 09:30 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

My understanding of overlay is that it is a thick dense mat, not fluffy. Is this correct?

Again, this is my first grow so I'm certainly not an expert. My humidity is still pretty high, but I stopped misting when the pins appeared. The other two casings haven't pinned yet, so I'm reluctant to drop the RH any more.

I have some new pix to upload, but I have to wait about an hour before my 24-hr upload limit resets.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2995157 - 08/12/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, here are new pix from this morning.





If anything looks out of whack (overlay, etc) please let me know.

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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2996146 - 08/12/04 03:07 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Just having a white layer over your casing is overlay. An ub overlayed casing will be coir with pins sticking through the csing. You can see with my last grow theres a bit of overlay in areas,


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2996216 - 08/12/04 03:22 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, that's really terrible.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2996709 - 08/12/04 05:21 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

My understanding prior to this was that you should patch if there are specific areas that pop up too soon, then when everything looks even, you switch to fruiting mode.

With that in mind, after this flush is finished and I do a dunk tek, do I put it back in incubator mode and keep patching until all I see are pins emerging?


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: pinset & pix!!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2996743 - 08/12/04 05:27 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

you want to cover up whast showing and fruit the next day. You want the myc to be just under the casing.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: 1st flush ready!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #2999949 - 08/13/04 09:42 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Aug 13 - houseguests finally left this morning. Good timing, too. Here is what I woke up to this am:



I went ahead and harvested those where the veil had dropped; some of those groups still had pins at the base which appeared to be aborts.

I'm guessing I pulled about a fourth of them. Weight so far is 20g.

These guys are pretty little -- 3/4" diameter caps, about 3" tall. Stems are kinda thin. I think my casing dried out a bit -- it was pulling away from one side of the container. I've been fanned 3-4 times/day as time permits. As I mentioned before, it's been difficult to get in there due to my visitors this past week.

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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: 1st flush ready!) [Re: shaman2b]
    #3000566 - 08/13/04 12:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I like how those mexi-cubs grow! 20g, wet? Not bad for a first harvest! Eat em fresh if you can :wink: They loose some potency as they dry.


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Re: First grow, cased PF cakes. (UPDATE: 1st flush ready!) [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3001029 - 08/13/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

It will probably be a total of about 60-80g wet.  I only harvested & weighed about a fourth of the flush so far!

I'm very excited about having this kind of success on my first attempt. :laugh: :thumbup: :crazy2: :mushroom2:  :nut:


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Final weight first flush [Re: shaman2b]
    #3003729 - 08/14/04 07:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Harvested the remaining fruits this morning. Total wet weight of flush was 98g. I dried the first half last night -- 52g wet yielded 4g dry.

The casing is now in the fridge for a dunk. We'll see how the second flush goes...


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Re: Final weight first flush [Re: shaman2b]
    #3004181 - 08/14/04 11:33 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

So how about a trip report on those babies? :]


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Re: Final weight first flush [Re: DrJonez]
    #3004713 - 08/14/04 03:13 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Funny you should ask....

I had to eat some today.  Looks like I'm gonna have to grow some more reaaaal soon.  :shocked: :grin:

I'm kinda in the middle of things right now if ya know what I mean, so a full report won't be coming for a little while.  But you fungus funsters will certainly get one.

Fungus funsters.  I like that.

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Update Aug 16 [Re: shaman2b]
    #3008459 - 08/16/04 09:41 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Trip report has been posted to Trip Tips.

Grow update:
Saturday evening I returned the dunked casing to the fruiting chamber and noticed the first tiny pins on the other two casings.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I upped the lighting from 6 hrs to 8hrs in the middle of the fruiting. Then on Saturday I upped it again to 10 hrs. Pins are looking good; I'll post a pic when they get a little bigger.


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casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: shaman2b]
    #3013136 - 08/17/04 11:33 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

This morning it's a sea of pins, and I even have an aggressive mature one to pick.  Casing #2 (the smaller container) is the same mix as casing #1 previously discussed: 2 half-pint PF cakes, crumbled & cased.

The third casing, my larger one, is done with 2 pints of rye.  I had to do 4 half-pints 'cuz my PC at the time wasn't big enough.  I used Magash's simple rye tek for that one.







Yummilicious!  :crazy2:

Today I'm prepping some more jars for inoculation.  There are three about ready to birth, so I want to make sure there's always somethin' cookin'.  That first excruciating wait is now a thing of the past!

This next batch I'm trying to choose between EQ's & B+.  Waddaya guys think?

Cheers,

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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: shaman2b]
    #3015620 - 08/17/04 08:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

go for EQ =D


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: Worf]
    #3015936 - 08/17/04 09:57 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what size / type of containers you using for your casings?=)


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: deviation]
    #3015983 - 08/17/04 10:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

The smaller one is a plastic Gladware-type container, approx. 9"x5"x5"H. The larger one is an aluminum pan approx 8"x12"x3 1/2"H.

Since the plastic one is clear, I wrapped some foil around it so pins won't form where they shouldn't.


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: shaman2b]
    #3018828 - 08/18/04 02:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

b+ has some LARGE fruits, i'd go for that.


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: TODAY]
    #3020257 - 08/18/04 08:05 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Let's see.... one vote EQ, one vote B+.  Guess I'll have to do both!  :grin:


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: shaman2b]
    #3021643 - 08/19/04 12:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

that's what  i like to hear  :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: casing #2 & #3 are fruiting [Re: shaman2b]
    #3029660 - 08/20/04 06:10 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Man thats a great job for your first grow! Good luck with everything.


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Casing yields & grow update [Re: ]
    #3070306 - 08/30/04 05:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all the feedback.  Sorry I haven't posted in a while.  Well, actually there IS a post, but it's another trip report...  :shocked:

So even though I got distracted for a while, my babies have been receiving the attention they need and deserve!

The first casing yielded two flushes.  98g + 28g = 126g total.  I stopped after the second one because I was a afraid of contams.  One thing I left out of my grow log, is that there appeared to be a bit of green on my casing early on, and I used a salt-tek to arrest it. Everything seemed to work out okay, but I figure that doing so may have impacted the ability to go beyond two flushes.  I dunno.  Besides, I had some more jars ready to case anyway!

The second casing (identical mixture as the first) was just returned to the fruiting chamber two days ago after a second flush of 31g.  The first flush was about 70g, for a total of 101g so far.

The third casing (done with 2 pints of rye) was just returned to the fruiting chamber last night.  First flush yielded only 59g.  Not sure why it was less than either of the other two crumbled BRF casings.  The second flush yielded 67g of some beautiful larger fruits, for a combined total of 126g!  I didn't take any pix of the second flush, sorry.

Yesterday afternoon while the fruiting chamber was waiting to receive refreshed casings, I decided to clean it out and also UPGRADE myself to Geolite!!!  I rinsed them in a bucket and used a strainer to return them to the cleaned fruiting chamber.  Added my 10% H2O2 solution & was ready to go.  Yippie, no more Perlite!!!

Also last night I crumbled some TH Koh Samui cakes into a new casing.  These TH's have been incubating since Jul 25.

After the first flush on the first casing, I did a few spore prints for insurance, using a Magash tek.  I intend to do at least 4 prints for each strain.

I just knocked up some EQ jars  on Aug 18 and they are coming along nicely with some Rhizo growth, although a bit slower because my incubator is running a bit below 80 degrees.  (I'm not using a heater at the moment; the room had been warmer until recently).  I decided to wait on the B+ because there won't be any room in the fruiting chamber for a while.

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Re: Casing yields & grow update [Re: shaman2b]
    #3161521 - 09/21/04 06:44 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

of each case what was your dry weight ?


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