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OfflineraSman
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Mystery Plant...
    #2967256 - 08/05/04 11:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Can ne one make an ID on this suspected member of the mint family?:



:heart: thanx in advance


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2967429 - 08/05/04 12:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You'd get better responses in the Ethnobotanical Garden.....


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2967448 - 08/05/04 12:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm certainly no botanist but that resembles a plant that I have been interested in lately.

That being Pedicularis groenlandica or "Elephant's Head". I read something once saying that it was a very effective sedative and was considering ordering seeds here.

Good luck  :wink:


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: thoth_the_moth]
    #2967672 - 08/05/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

nah...the leaves on this are kinda like lion's tail leaves and the flowers are pink, not purple...thanx ne how


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2967752 - 08/05/04 02:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's almost impossible to say. We need a close up of the leaves and flowers. It might be one I've grown.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2967764 - 08/05/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

cant see it very well (bad sight), looks kinda like fireweed to me.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2968694 - 08/05/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

low resolution makes it hard to id, my first impression was something close to lupulus or epilobium and not mint.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #2969004 - 08/05/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)




this shud help


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2971553 - 08/06/04 12:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yeah that helped. that is Epilobium angustifolium I am 99.5% sure but i am only a hobby botanist so i would not bet my house and children on it tho :wink:


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #2971591 - 08/06/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lol i still don't kno...the things in my yard are about 6 feet tall and the leaves on pics of Epilobium angustifolium are diferent looking...thanx though

it says it grows to 3 feet tall wit 1 inch flowers...the flowers are really small though


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2972006 - 08/06/04 02:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

well I must disagree with that., they can grow taller than 6 feet also ,and the leaves are exactly the same, i have one here in my hand (i have fireweed all around my house) to compare with the picture and they look exactly the same to me and so does the flowers.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2973676 - 08/06/04 10:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lavander?


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #2973708 - 08/06/04 10:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm...are there ne uses for Epilobium angustifolium?


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2973774 - 08/06/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

for all who read the info i posted before this edit please disregard that iufo , that info was for fireweed wich is Erechtites hieracifolia and not the plant of the picture, i had the common names confused. The common name for this plant is Willow Herb.

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---Uses---The leaves of the Rose Bay Willow herb have been used as a substitute andadulterant of Tea. Though no longer so employed in England, the leaves of both this species and of the Great Hairy Willow-herb (E. hirsutum, Linn.) are largely used in Russia, under the name of Kaporie Tea.

Green (Universal Herbal, 1832) reports:
'The young shoots are said to be eatable, although an infusion of the plant produces a stupifying effect.

'The pith when dried is boiled, and becoming sweet, is by a proper process made into ale, and this into vinegar, by the Kamtschatdales; it is also added to the Cow Parsnip, to enrich the spirit that is prepared from that plant.

'As fodder, goats are said to be extremely fond of it and cows and sheep to eat it.

'The down of the seeds, mixed with cotton or fur, has been manufactured into stockings, etc.'
The young shoots are boiled and eaten like asparagus.
The ale made from the plant in Kamchatka is rendered still more intoxicating with a toadstool, the Fly Agaric, Agaricus muscarius.


---Medicinal Action and Uses---The roots and leaves have demulcent, tonic and astringent properties and are used in domestic medicine in decoction, infusion and cataplasm, as astringents.

Used much in America as an intestinal astringent.

The plant contains mucilage and tannin.

The dose of the herb is 30 to 60 grains. It has been recommended for its antispasmodic properties in the treatment of whoopingcough, hiccough and asthma.

In ointment, it has been used locally as a remedy for infantile cutaneous affections.

By some modern botanists, this species is now assigned to a separate genus and designated: Chamcenerion angustifolium (Scop.).



Edited by Mystiq_Shaman (08/06/04 11:40 PM)


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #2974099 - 08/07/04 01:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

awesome...thanx a lot man


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2974748 - 08/07/04 07:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

no problem :smile:

here is a pic of some leaves i took yesterday and was supposed to post but couldnt because of upload limits.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #2975020 - 08/07/04 11:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

o cool...looks like it to me...hell of a strong plant


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2976265 - 08/07/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

covers the clearcuts here by the km's. very handy plant when backpacking, in some areas it is all there is to eat.


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: kadakuda]
    #2976367 - 08/07/04 08:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

interesting


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Re: Mystery Plant... [Re: raSman]
    #2980214 - 08/09/04 03:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

not to mention its one of the best plants to hide budd in around here. ive never realised just how much our area relies on this plant. what a score.


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