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OfflinePolecat
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Amanita Trip Report
    #2967218 - 08/05/04 10:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

M?ki? pessoal!! Howdy

Have been harvesting and ingesting Amanita muscaria for a couple a years and I've tried different methodes of ingestion and gradual amounts, I?m posting this because I finally got some light psychoacticity. this story begins on November 2003, Amanita season (at least in Portugal)when I harvested some fresh young and adult individuals.

There's an intruder there but relax I didn't eat it.

After I picked them up I dried them by different methods (oven, dessicant, fanning) and sinceraly I dont quite know which is best

there some cubies there altough the experience was only with the muscaria.
All in all I had about 70 grams of dried Fly Agaric.

I was waiting for a nice occasion to try a new dosage of this mushroom. In March this year, me and two friends went to the South in Algarve and decided to try our fungi friends out.

All 70 grams to the pot with +/- a liter of water.

We boiled it for about 15 minutes and then disposed the mushrooms.
after this, two of us were ready for the ingestion of 3 glasses of muscarina tea, I weight 85Kg and Andr? maybe 75Kg.


We went out to the streets and 20 minutes later i started to feel different (mainly my head, visual, ears and touch were slightly altered) this was mushrrom effect for sure, although, a bit distinct from the Psylocibes. funny no nausea was felt by any of us.
Nevetheless, only I experienced some psychoactivity, maybe due to the empty stomach.



Next time I'm sure it is going to be some real triping, because this what I am going to do and I can recomend this for any of you who feels ready for this mushroom (only experienced people should try this as you all know). Here's the procedure for the portuguese Amanita muscaria:

- harvest 6 or seven individuals. Adult are more fleshy but also have more nematodes and bugs inside it.

- divide the mushrooms by cutting it in 4 pieces(or less), this increases the speed of drying process.

- If you also have 70 grams of dried mushies and your body weight is near 75 to 85 Kilograms( this is very important, the balance between this two factors are crucial) you should boil the mushrooms not for 15 but for 60 minutes. This way the tea will be more potent, notice that the mushrooms loose all its substances when it's whitish.

- Empty stomach as allways for more potency and less nausea.


Note: be careful with the harvesting. One can easely wipeout an entire colony when too gready.

hope I've been useful in any way
enjoy


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #2967348 - 08/05/04 11:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Cool! Thanks for sharing.  You definitley look like you're tripping! :lol: Nice pictures.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #2967443 - 08/05/04 12:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Not being paranoid, but, It's probably not the best idea to post pictures of your face, next to talking about tripping, although, I don't know the laws in portugal, but that's not something i'd do :wink:



anyway, to the real question, how did the tea taste?


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: OuchITripped]
    #2967461 - 08/05/04 12:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

REAL BAD! that's the taste of the tea, we had to concentrate not to vomit, very hard. Bahh. one of the worst things you'll taste in your life for sure. not very strong, just disgusting


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #2973190 - 08/06/04 08:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

amanita tea is close to the worst shit you'll taste shrooming, big laughing gyms are the grand champions of disgusting taste... although amanita tea is by far more stomache churning. i trip on the amanitas once or twice a year in the fall. my usual dose is like four medium sized caps, dehydrate them, rehydrate them in a cup of hot water... let sit for a few minutes until it becomes golden color, squeeze out caps and discard, drink. the more mature the caps are, the less likely you'll get as sick... the muscarine is less concentrated in the mature caps(ones that flare upwards when dropping spores). you can sun dry the caps on mirrors or use a dehydrator. in the old days people would bypass the sickness part by inserting dehydrated caps into the rectal or vaginal openings to be absorbed through the soft inner and highly absorbant tissue linings. also you can drink the piss of the amanita user and likewise trip aswell... up to like 5 times or so. anyhow they aren't for the faint or weak of heart and body. aside from a surreal experience, one discovers and understands just how bad mushroom poisoning can be. peace.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: uki]
    #2974838 - 08/07/04 09:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

uki, can you talk about your experiences with gyms, what dosage, his effects and all. It's something a can find near me but I know little about them.
:wink:


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #2974964 - 08/07/04 11:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Polecat said:
Nevetheless, only I experienced some psychoactivity, maybe due to the empty stomach.





BHA!!

You got it all wrong man. First of all you dont need to boil it for 60 minutes, you dont need to boil it for 15 minutes either .... you dont need to boil it AT ALL. You destroy the active ingerdient by doing that.

(funny thing i just had a de javu while tiping thtalast paragraph)

Anyways, the best way is to cook them FRESH. And by cooking i mean lightly simering them at around 85C. Thats when you covert the acids. Alot of people fuck it up and then complain at the lack of effects.

So grab fresh amaintas and cut them into small wide pieces, simmer at 85C for half an hour.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: cleaner]
    #2975103 - 08/07/04 12:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

tried that...

the bad news is that if you cook them fresh(more than ten amanitas) you'll almost need a bathtub to put them in and almost an ocean to cover them.
And now I'm not exagerating, but when I tried them fresh, I drunk a liter of tea had no psychoactivity and had stomach pain

Result:too much water for the amount of muscimol, and then instead of a cup of tea i'll have to drink 2 liters a tea.


and by the way, I apologize, when I wrote boiled, I meant "your english" simmer. In portuguese there's only one word for it.



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Edited by Polecat (08/07/04 12:48 PM)


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #2975165 - 08/07/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if you know what your looking for, big laughing gyms are pretty cool. the trip is less intense than the psilocybes... more mellow, body trip feeling. our dose is two teaspoons of dry powder... dehydrate till crisp(not in oven) then put into coffee grinder. they taste real fucking bad, like rust... thats about it... they make you all giggly and stuff... most people don't eat them because of the taste, yet in my neck of the woods we don't have the luxury to hop a fence into a field of cows, so we eat laughing gyms. they work for us... tradition, every year about mid september we go looking for them smiling at us in the woods. peace.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: uki]
    #2977548 - 08/08/04 07:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

alright dont boil them at all

Get fresh amanitas and put them in oven, bake them at mild temperatures, thats when the isoboteric acid coverts, mild temps, somewhere around 90C.

Now you gonna have to eat them like that, use only caps, no stems, and you need 2 - 3 caps for yourself it should send you flyin if you do it right and got potent amanitas


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #3176367 - 09/24/04 08:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you should try drinking your piss afterwards
it may sound disgusting but its not that bad and well worth it
plus you dont need to eat as mush of the holy stuff


if you cant drink it like that just pour 1\3 of the piss in a glass
and the rest mix with juice
you should be able to down it in one go with no problem

*take a piss before you drink the soup and after you drank it ANY drop that comes out of your dick make sure goes back in your mouth
and drink at leat 4 loads.....
trust me you'll thank me later


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: berserker]
    #3176686 - 09/24/04 10:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

lol id rather not =)


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: JaRRn]
    #3176717 - 09/24/04 10:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well you can always stick it up the ass too i read. hahah i am sticking with cubes for now.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: kontron]
    #3274231 - 10/25/04 05:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

uhhh... i dont suggest that method any more, thou i doubt it will have much influence.. smoking the dried skin and portion directly under the skin is my favorite method.. also.. amanitas mascaria are quite poisonous and have killed quite a few.. (as im sure you know)..
smoking is definitely nice thou! especialy with weed!


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: berserker]
    #3275128 - 10/25/04 02:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

you should try drinking your piss afterwards
it may sound disgusting but its not that bad and well worth it
plus you dont need to eat as mush of the holy stuff


if you cant drink it like that just pour 1\3 of the piss in a glass
and the rest mix with juice
you should be able to down it in one go with no problem

*take a piss before you drink the soup and after you drank it ANY drop that comes out of your dick make sure goes back in your mouth
and drink at leat 4 loads.....
trust me you'll thank me later





you are one crazy mofo.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #3275157 - 10/25/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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and by the way, I apologize, when I wrote boiled, I meant "your english" simmer. In portuguese there's only one word for it.





Yeah there is no portugese word for simmer - "Ferver" is boil I belive.


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Re: Amanita Trip Report [Re: Polecat]
    #3275409 - 10/25/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hi, you compatriot of mine!
[:lol: at 'M?ki?']

I too have found Amanitas growing in our country, in Alentejo, but wasn't brave enough to eat them. Mostly because all the ones i found had all sorts of bugs and disgusting larvae living inside them.

I did however smoke the red skins to mild effects (that could have been solely placebo).

Anyways, the trip reports i read/heard about them didn't make me too curious so for now i'll keep my fungal experiments with psilocybin mushrooms only.

Glad to know another portuguese folk at the boards!  :sun:


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