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Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public
    #2966860 - 08/05/04 06:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

From the local campus magazine, an article about research chems:

'...One local devotee of synthetic phenethylamines considers himself a "psychonaut". "An astronaut explores outer-space, a psychonaut explores inner-space - although we don't really like to make that differentiation between inner and outer space, because they're already the same." He claims psychedelic drugs like 2C-I have changed his life and made him a spiritual person. According to him, more common drugs such as Ecstacy provide only a superficial high, and are no good as a spiritual aid. "To me, psychedelics have acted as a union of all the manifestations of the human consciousness. Science, art, religion, social interactions, and the deepest facets of the self come together in some form of amazing tapestry that is the human experience." He adds, "It's not just when you're on the psychedelics, either - it integrates into your everyday life." One example of this, he says, is his ability to see "infinitley complex self-mimicking patterns" everywhere, including on campus, even when not using drugs....'

I would write the whole article out but its pretty long. If you guys are interested, I might scan it or something. So, what do you think about these sorts of views getting put to the public. Do they view it as hippie babble, or is there a chance people take these things on board?


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2966922 - 08/05/04 07:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"infinitley complex self-mimicking patterns

i like that


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2967086 - 08/05/04 09:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

we share a great deal of excitement of discovery.
we want to share it better.

some say "the end of the world is nigh"
some say "you learn lots if you get high"

can't really blame any of them for being excited.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2967237 - 08/05/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's necessary to leak these things to the general public, as long as you don't get too esoteric. No problem with the hippie babble, but I think you should substantiate it with scientific research on psychedelics, their use as an aid to psychotherapy and addiction rehab, references to 'serious' people like Huxley and Huston Smith, and all kinds of things like that. When you want to introduce people into a world that's completely alien to them, the best thing is to take them by the hand and start with references they may know or feel comfortable with.

But yes, by all means, SPREAD THE WORD !  :thumbup:


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: Aldous]
    #2968691 - 08/05/04 05:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The world needs more thoughtful, spiritual, introspective people, whether through the influence of drugs or not. And my grandparents are here, so I'll see abouto posting mroe later.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2969016 - 08/05/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not really sure psychadelics would make the world a better place. If people have miserable materialist lives drugs will make them aware of being miserable and materialistic. If you have a crappy life psychadelic experieince will show you higher truths, but your life will still be crappy except now you have higher truths to be confused by. Nothing lost, nothing gained. Sure people would have a new knowledge and perspective, but really I don't think it would make anyone better off. I wish I could say that waking people up from the dreams they are living in is good and that they would learn something, but really there is nothing to wake up to and nothing to learn. Might as well keep sleeping.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2969020 - 08/05/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Excellent. It is extremely difficult to attempt to open minds and NOT seem like a total loony-tune.

Every little bit helps. March on, friends!


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2969239 - 08/05/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'll make this short, but think not only of the general public, think what kind of benefits the spread of knowledge about psychedelics would bring about for people with mental problems of all sorts, psychotherapy in general, and many other fields. I'm not necessarily advocating that a maximum number of people should have a psychedelic experience ASAP, but I would like to see psychedelics taken very seriously in all fields of science they revolve around, and they're many. Meaning massive research and integrating those substances in any area of life and society where they can be beneficial and harmless.

I hope I'm not asking too much. :shocked:


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: Positronius]
    #2970706 - 08/06/04 02:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Positronius said:
"infinitley complex self-mimicking patterns

i like that




aka fractals


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: daba]
    #2970727 - 08/06/04 02:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes...exactly. I was talking about fractals but she didnt know what the hell those were so I told her they're something along the lines of that ^^


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2973555 - 08/06/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey zee warp, what NZ univeristy do you go to? I spent some time at Otago a few years back. It must be chilly down there this time of year.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2974177 - 08/07/04 01:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yep I'm at Otago...temps aren't too bad, you just gotta keep moving! Things are still sweet down here...good place, good people, lots of shrooms!


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2974474 - 08/07/04 03:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

psychedelics have taught me to take life for what its worth, an experience.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: fearfect]
    #2974759 - 08/07/04 07:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

YES! I agree with you totally on that one. Perhaps the entire universe is just one big experience? Anyway fearfect, 5 shrooms for you bro!


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: Aldous]
    #2974943 - 08/07/04 10:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Aldous said:
I think it's necessary to leak these things to the general public, as long as you don't get too esoteric.




Exactly. I think the more it's done in a very rational, and scientific way, while also explaining the personal and philsophical side of it, people won't be scared off. I think those who view drug use as an escape are put off by very grandous terminology.


I think you did a great job of explaining it. We need more stuff like that to balance out the crazy reports in the media.


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Re: Gettin the psychedelic word out to the public [Re: zee_werp]
    #2976353 - 08/07/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You kinda sounds like a stoner though... for people that don't know much about shrooms (even people that have done them before, but just for fun at parties), they think it just makes you insane and see stuff. I don't think you can really explain the spiritual aspect to people unless they are REALLY taking you seriously (and don't think you're a crazy stoner) or they try it themselves.


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