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Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack
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So I posted about my first day microdosing 200mg libs which was simply excellent! My usual torturous OCD thought loops were gone, even more so than with psychostimulants (poss adhd, psych pills me up with dexamphetamine).

Day two was also sublime, no ocd, great concentration and my empathy was so unlocked, I was singing and dancing at work etc people noticed I was more free.

Today is day 3 and I decided to take a break to see. No microdose today.
This morning saw me huddled on my kitchen floor having an anxiety attack before work. Got into work and things smoothed out (I work in a very neurodivergent workplace where we all have shit mental health, so very supportive)

I'm just wondering if this was anything to do with the two days of microdosing or simply just a rebound of the usual chronic anxiety ocd/exec func issues due to the DMN coming back online more?

Something else is noticed is that although the previous two days have been sublime, I almost felt a bit too good? Like stuff was being shut off or totally repressed etc but I was acutely aware of it all being there still underneath, it just wasn't affecting me.

I feel like if I had gone say 5 days microdosing then took a break the anxiety attack would have been massive and possible a full blown panic attack.

Is this all sort of ok? As in nothing really with the microdosing here or is it some interaction with complex ptsd etc?

Im just tryns gauge whether to continue or not and how much to dose and break....

Any thougts?

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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: ShatteredSoulShard]
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You either stop or you keep going. One anxiety attack isn't evidence of anything. You will need to track your mood over months in order to figure out if it's doing anything or causing anxiety attacks. I'm not saying keep pushing if you don't want to, but if you do want to keep pushing I think that's okay.


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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: islandsss]
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islandsss said:
You either stop or you keep going. One anxiety attack isn't evidence of anything. You will need to track your mood over months in order to figure out if it's doing anything or causing anxiety attacks. I'm not saying keep pushing if you don't want to, but if you do want to keep pushing I think that's okay.



Yeah I suppose so.
I suppose what I'm worried about is prolongsd dosing causing increased dissociation, but I often feel numb anyway so might as well continue I guess. Just tryna figure things out

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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: ShatteredSoulShard]
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ShatteredSoulShard said:
islandsss said:
You either stop or you keep going. One anxiety attack isn't evidence of anything. You will need to track your mood over months in order to figure out if it's doing anything or causing anxiety attacks. I'm not saying keep pushing if you don't want to, but if you do want to keep pushing I think that's okay.



Yeah I suppose so.
I suppose what I'm worried about is prolongsd dosing causing increased dissociation, but I often feel numb anyway so might as well continue I guess. Just tryna figure things out



If in your heart you feel like the long term costs will outweigh the benefits then you shouldn't do it. If in your heart you feel like the long term benefits will outweigh the costs then you should keep going. Only you can answer that unfortunately.

The psychedelic journey doesn't end just because shrooms aren't for you (not making that determination, just saying if that's the conclusion you come to), as you can also try microdosing LSD, which has tons of people that swear by it.


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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: islandsss]
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islandsss said:
ShatteredSoulShard said:
islandsss said:
You either stop or you keep going. One anxiety attack isn't evidence of anything. You will need to track your mood over months in order to figure out if it's doing anything or causing anxiety attacks. I'm not saying keep pushing if you don't want to, but if you do want to keep pushing I think that's okay.



Yeah I suppose so.
I suppose what I'm worried about is prolongsd dosing causing increased dissociation, but I often feel numb anyway so might as well continue I guess. Just tryna figure things out



If in your heart you feel like the long term costs will outweigh the benefits then you shouldn't do it. If in your heart you feel like the long term benefits will outweigh the costs then you should keep going. Only you can answer that unfortunately.

The psychedelic journey doesn't end just because shrooms aren't for you (not making that determination, just saying if that's the conclusion you come to), as you can also try microdosing LSD, which has tons of people that swear by it.



True! LSD is much harder for me to get but this is true 👍

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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: ShatteredSoulShard] * 1
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If you do choose to continue with micro dosing, maybe cut the dosage as well.

I had a similar experience in that people at work did notice a difference in my personality and mood on dosing days. To me that was an indication that I needed to reduce the dose a bit. Ideally, the change should be more subtle and sustained over a longer period of time. I don't think that you want to be on big swings which is almost inevitable if the highs are too high. The good days are great, but that makes the difficult days more challenging. I hope that makes sense.

I tried both LSD and mushroom micro dosing regimes. I found LSD more helpful for ADD and because a morning dose lasted the whole work day. Mush was better for mood, but no help for ADHD at all. Both were good for depression, but LSD was erratic for anxiety. Sometimes it gives me all the confidence in the world, the next time I can't get out of my head or out of my own way.

And of course, the chemicals alone are not as effective as when they are combined with some self work. Learning meditation and to separate my thoughts from my self is extremely valuable for me. Meditation may not be the answer for everyone, but finding something more than chemicals alone is an important part of the journey imho.

Now I mostly just do occasional macro doses instead of any micros. Though I am missing my lions mane & micro subtrops lately, so I am thinking about giving them another go. But more for social occasions and free time than work hours.


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Re: Day 3 after microdose, anxiety attack [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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ReverendMyc said:
If you do choose to continue with micro dosing, maybe cut the dosage as well.

I had a similar experience in that people at work did notice a difference in my personality and mood on dosing days. To me that was an indication that I needed to reduce the dose a bit. Ideally, the change should be more subtle and sustained over a longer period of time. I don't think that you want to be on big swings which is almost inevitable if the highs are too high. The good days are great, but that makes the difficult days more challenging. I hope that makes sense.

I tried both LSD and mushroom micro dosing regimes. I found LSD more helpful for ADD and because a morning dose lasted the whole work day. Mush was better for mood, but no help for ADHD at all. Both were good for depression, but LSD was erratic for anxiety. Sometimes it gives me all the confidence in the world, the next time I can't get out of my head or out of my own way.

And of course, the chemicals alone are not as effective as when they are combined with some self work. Learning meditation and to separate my thoughts from my self is extremely valuable for me. Meditation may not be the answer for everyone, but finding something more than chemicals alone is an important part of the journey imho.

Now I mostly just do occasional macro doses instead of any micros. Though I am missing my lions mane & micro subtrops lately, so I am thinking about giving them another go. But more for social occasions and free time than work hours.



Thanks for the feedback and insight 👍

I've learned that I am a highly sensitive person with a hypersensitive nervous system, like, can't handle more than the tiniest crumb of weed or I have panic attacks, When I take prescribed psychostimulants I can't get past 20mg before side effects anxiety and agitation get too bad whereas most folks would be on more than that, ive even had to cut out caffeine as my nervous system wont tolerate it anymore.
Alcohol on the other hand... whether I drink regularly or not (ive cut way back) I can seem to be able to drink a bottle and a half of wine and still make it upstairs to bed hah! I like the numbing of alcohol too much so I severely restrict my alcohol intake.

With shrooms, even 200mg makes my driving a bit sketchy so I think ill cut the microdoses back to 100mg.
As for macros, ive found that 2 grams gives me a full enough trip, 3.5 is very intense and the couple of 5 gram libs trips were just waaayyyy too much at this stage for me. The experience was interesting for sure! But my traumatised nervous system and psyche found it absolutely intolerable and left me in a bad way for a while, like i couldnt leave the house for a week haha.

I totally get that other things are important too and I do practice meditation, even though i find it agitation:/
I find when im really struggling to meditate its often because of emotional repression, so ill have a micro/macro dose to emotionally purge ans then I can be meditate.
Also practicing yoga and I love gardening and bushcraft, I have quite a number of therapeutic hobbies and finally getting therapy this year! Would like to try EMDR!

Will try LSD as well man, its just hard to get unless you know of a website hint hint haha.

Anyway thanks for all that, its very helpful :smile: people in this site are so helpful

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