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Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question
    #2959676 - 08/03/04 11:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Once you have colonized rye jars can you spawn them into something else?

If so what do you use as substrate?

I am looking to fruit for prints.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Cyber]
    #2959843 - 08/03/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You can simply case the grain or spawn to pasteurized wheat straw. Just casing the grain seems to be the most common way it's done.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Cyber]
    #2963210 - 08/04/04 06:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You can fruit them directly from grain. I had success when I left colonized rye grass seed for 3 months until sclerotia formed, then cased it and cold schocked for a couple of weeks.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: zeronio]
    #2963337 - 08/04/04 09:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

when you cased them, did you remove the sclerotia?


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Cyber]
    #2966678 - 08/05/04 03:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No! That's the point. Mushrooms sprout from sclerotia.
I think that people have problems with this strain only because they don't wait enough for sclerotia to form. I had some nice flushes with "cubensis like" fruiting conditions.



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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: zeronio]
    #2966896 - 08/05/04 06:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

great pics zeronio
i wish you posted more!


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: zeronio]
    #2966989 - 08/05/04 08:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, great pics.
Just nominated one of it in the grow log section :smile:


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: ragadinks]
    #2967024 - 08/05/04 08:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Love the pics, will try it when i got some more of it.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: ragadinks]
    #2970695 - 08/06/04 02:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well thanks - but these pictures are rather old. I already posted them some time ago.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: zeronio]
    #2972927 - 08/06/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Those all look sterile zeronio, were they?

I hear this is a problem with these. Well I got some going so we shall see.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Cyber]
    #2973641 - 08/06/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

instead of rye could you use wbs?


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Cyber]
    #2976087 - 08/07/04 07:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So, you need to let the sclerotia form before you attempt to fruit? Perhaps that's my problem. I have some with fully mature sclerotia, but have been fruiting fully colonized, younger jars. They seem to fruit fine, but then the fruits all abort just before the caps open. It's been driving me crazy!! I'll try fruiting one of the sclerotia jars. Can I at least 'steal' a few of the stones out first? lol


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2980721 - 08/09/04 09:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Those all look sterile zeronio, were they?




No - I got sporeprints. They just weren't fully mature at the point I took the pictures.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: zeronio]
    #2980774 - 08/09/04 10:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i hear that caffeine is great for sclerotia production, and if indeed this type of shroom does fruit better from sclerotia rich substrate then caffeine will help overall production.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2983007 - 08/09/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You hear caffeine or coffee because I havnt seen anything yet saying caffeine helps growth of mushrooms at all..so far people have only used coffee that I'm aware of. Have you seen different somewhere else?


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2983243 - 08/09/04 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, if you read the entire coffee thread someone said caffeine boosts sclerotia growth.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2984834 - 08/10/04 06:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol, I haven't got myself ready to read the whole coffee thread, it's so fucking big...
But I have some jars made up with added coffee, all nicely sterilised. Now all I need is for my spores to arrive! :mad:
Zeronio's pics have inspired me to try to fruit a jar when they're ready, those little mushies look so nice! :mushroom2:
Hmmm... Zeronio, was that from a multispore or isolate? Obviously the first time I do this I'll be doing a multispore inoc, will the individual strains still get big and strong enough to fruit, do you think?


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Openminded]
    #2984846 - 08/10/04 06:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, they will still develop. but it's always better to start spores on agar or liquid media. also, i heard if your coffee concentration is too high your jars will contam real easy.


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2984862 - 08/10/04 06:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The conc isn't too high, I only used a hint of coffee. It may not even be enough to have an effect, but I don't think it could do any harm. When I have an isolate, then I can do quantitative comparisons...
I will be germinating the spores in liquid media, just to make my syringe go further. I am also planning on germinating some on agar and isolating some healthy growth, but I'll inoc a few jars before I do this, just because I'm impatient, lol.
It is my plan, once I have a nice isolate on agar, to make myc freely available to people if they want it, so they can put it in some karo and grow their own. Kinda like a way to say thanks for all the info I've got here. But this is my first time growing, so I might end up messing up everyhting..! We'll see...


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Re: Ps. Mexicana A-Strain Question [Re: Openminded]
    #2985042 - 08/10/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

good luck openminded! btw, i hope your not planning on sending myc to the US....


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