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Paul808996
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: jumpship]
#2112793 - 11/16/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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does anybody remember seeing an experiment(i think it was on the pf web site before he got busted) where they used black lights and the shrooms grew fine at first butt it caused mutations in later generations. i can't remember the details but i thought maybe on of you might remember seeing it
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jumpship
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: Paul808996]
#2112802 - 11/16/03 07:54 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep the link on the first page of this post is to that article. it is near the bottom, it links to mycotopia.
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Paul808996
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: jumpship]
#2113043 - 11/16/03 08:51 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok. i missed that before. thanks
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tuna
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: california, bay area
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: Paul808996]
#2113841 - 11/16/03 11:50 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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what about blue LEDs, i hear those accelerate pinning, thus proving that shrooms are sensitive to different wave lengths of light.
also, instead of using a black light, i was thinking of covering the light window in my grow chamber with the same black/purple material... will it work?
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micro
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: tuna]
#2113932 - 11/17/03 12:09 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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It has nothing to do with the color of the light -- it has to do with the energy of the UV light which bonds adjacent thymine molecules in DNA. These are then unable to be transcribed, so the transcriptase enzyme replaces the gene. -- Micro
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tuna
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: micro]
#2118120 - 11/17/03 07:56 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh. i see... would a normal black light from spencer's work?
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jumpship
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: tuna]
#2118163 - 11/17/03 08:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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how would a black light be any different from a shroom growing out in the wild that was exposed to a high UV day. is it not UV's that cause mutations in human skin cells? would that also mean that black lights are bad for us, in that they may cause cancer the same way as the sun.
most plants never mutate from the sun, tomatoes produce lycopene to protect themselves against such mutations. the same chemical is good for us if we eat it. i would think mushrooms would be used to UV. is it that black lights produce more than in sunlight?
anyone know? and tuna as far as i know a black light is a black light if you want to pursue this that should work fine.
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micro
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: jumpship]
#2118366 - 11/17/03 09:12 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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The black lights from Spencer's aren't really powerful UV lights -- they don't produce light in very high frequencies. When something's under it constantly, though, it can do damage -- actually black lights like those have been proven to cause cataracts if an organism is in direct contact.
It's possible, but if you want a high rate of mutation you should probably use UV-C radiation.
-- Micro
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tuna
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: micro]
#2118544 - 11/17/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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what is a good source of uv-c radiation? i was thinking of putting a smoke detector in my fruiting chamber, those have some sort of radiatoin in them.
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micro
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: tuna]
#2119460 - 11/18/03 10:36 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- Any research paper or book for free (Avatar is Maxxy, a character by Mizzyam, RIP)
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Anonymous
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: jumpship]
#2120823 - 11/18/03 06:40 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ironically,IME, almost albino mushrooms tend to be found in the wild under trees in the shade, protected from excessive UV light. I have found a handful of them in the Jonesville area of florida, growing on horsemanure under thick tree cover. Others I found on cow manure under trees on the gainsville edge of the prarie.
These are completely white except a very small less then a dime, size circle of orange right at the caps center. Everything else is completely white.
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TrippinSpinners
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: ]
#2120914 - 11/18/03 07:31 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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>>Micro
What UV(UV-A or UV-B) are these guys sensitive to?
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tuna
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Re: albino TC encouragement? [Re: tuna]
#2958775 - 08/03/04 01:11 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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delayed bump!
-------------------- i do not do anything illegal. (other than j-walking) everything i say i am doing or have done is a lie.
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