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OfflineGalugamuth
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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?!
    #295695 - 04/18/01 06:51 AM (23 years, 11 days ago)

Gimmie a break "dbs mother" (your reply to my post), I know the difference between "being stoned" and "having one's brains liquified." Just a shortness of vocabulary after midnight. I was just looking for a word to indicate that the myceleum was taking effect. I should have used "tripping," or something more elaborate. But, even "stoned" is usually applied to weed, and weed is also a psychedelic. Besides, if you read my post before getting condescending you'd have realized that I do a fair amount of Salvia, which can be more potent than the mushroom experience in my humble opinion.

So, are you just giving me editing tips, a little mark off for imprecise vocabulary, or have you made the mistake of preaching to the converted.

Let's not, in the name of consciousness expansion, underestimate and condemn the unquantifiable consciousnesses of our fellow travellors.

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Edited by Galugamuth on 04/18/01 08:52 AM.


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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?! [Re: Galugamuth]
    #295977 - 04/18/01 09:36 AM (23 years, 11 days ago)

Weed, a psychedelic? I didn't know that.

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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?! [Re: Shroomdude]
    #295984 - 04/18/01 09:46 AM (23 years, 11 days ago)

Weed is a psychedelic, this is true. So there you go shroomdude, you learn something new everyday here at the Shroomery!


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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?!
    #296053 - 04/18/01 11:42 AM (23 years, 11 days ago)

The amount of active ingredients in an unfruited cake varies a lot. With Psilocybe cubensis, psilocybin and psilocin levels only start to accumulate in decent amounts after the cake is fully colonized. Aging a cake 30 days after it is fully colonized is recommended for optimum extraction. Bluing of the cake after removing it from the jar (finger print bruising) is a good indication that the cake has aged enough.

There is a risk with this method. You could accidently extract a contaminate. There are white molds that look like mycelium and there can be hidden contaminates not readily visible. Fruiting a cake guarantees that you are getting the material you hoped for.

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OfflineGalugamuth
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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?!
    #296576 - 04/18/01 10:11 PM (23 years, 11 days ago)

I'm not worrying about losing potential psylocibin, because the syringes are cheap. If I only get a dozen doses for me $15, that's a hell of a bargain in my opinion, especially considering all the money I save on a terrarium and humidifier and all. My goal is just to get quality psylocibin in a reasonable amount of time without too much effort or room for error.

But thanks for your suggestion.


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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?! [Re: Galugamuth]
    #296699 - 04/19/01 12:59 AM (23 years, 10 days ago)

Weed is a psychedelic!?...depending on where you get your information from, I guess. I'm sure that is what the DofJ wants everyone to think--I'll buy that it is a hallucinogen, sure. One could even argue that it is a narcotic(even though proven to not be addictive). But there are major differences between hallucinogens and psychedelics; Just because they sound similar doesn't make them the same...

Edited by hatter on 04/19/01 03:01 AM.



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Actually it is a Hallucinogen [Re: hatter]
    #296881 - 04/19/01 10:10 AM (23 years, 10 days ago)

Marijauna is most definaitly a hallucinogen. If you were to read any number of books avaqlible as reliable sources to the drug culture one would only have to look as far as "PLANTS OF THE GODS" written by "Richard Evans Shultes" (phd professor from harvard medical school who did research on medicinal plants, and before recently deseasd, one of the founding members of the psychoactive/medicinal revolution) The other author was "Albert Hofman" (he really doesn't need explanation but for those of you here just for kicks and not a way of life, this man, Albert Hofman was the inventor of LSD-25)

The book clearly states that out of all know hallucinogenic plants Marijauna is one. In fact it is a speacial one because all hallucinogenic/psychadelic (same fucking vocab) plants contain things that are called Alkaloids. An alkaloid is a molecule resulting in a nitrogen atom being burned off, which makes Cannabis special because of all the plants THC-9 is not a result of a lost nitrogen atom.

It's classification in all medical litrature, non-us-propganda tainted, all refer to it a Hallucinogentic chemical.

Allthough now most of the Psychoactive/Medicinal plant world feel that it IGNORANT to call anything a Hallucinogen now. They say that is brings about a feeling of falsity, where they now believe that we are seeing a true reality beyond the ego that filters out most of our lifes and things that exsist that we can't handle. You are only seeing 10% at most of what exsists before yhour eyes and these plants that ask little in return, only that we PAY ATTENTION and give them our RESPECT!

Here is an article from THe Alchemind Society, about Richard Evans Shultes death:
http://www.alchemind.org/news/Schultesobit.htm

I suggest that everyone take a look at this site and possibly join, the only way to Cognative Libery is through EDUCATION and not half truths and lies.

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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?! [Re: Galugamuth]
    #297124 - 04/19/01 06:43 PM (23 years, 10 days ago)

Could always fruit in the jars, save on terrariums just the same and you can get many many more doses. If you innoc right and can follow the ridiculously simple steps after that you're fine.

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Re: Too good to be true. Psylocin in myceleum?! [Re: hatter]
    #297128 - 04/19/01 06:46 PM (23 years, 10 days ago)

It is most definately in the hallucinogenic class of drugs, and I would say that it is a psychedelic. Its a moot point really, and rather off topic so maybe pm me, i'd like to chat a bit about it (this kinda thing interests me).

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