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What's your experience with Amanita muscaria?
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Hello
For a while now I've wanted to try some A. muscaria. I like the idea of intense dreams (dreams have somewhat become a hobby of mine lately).

Any thoughts on how to prepare, what to expect would be cool

Thanks


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush]
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a friend swears by it... saying it can be like the coke or the ket of the woods lol

i'm not sure, only one way to find out eh

you want it decarboxylated, to bypass nausea... and then try a low dose in tea or something 😊

might also ask some AI


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush]
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I like to think of it as grown up alcohol. It is exactly that, a neurotoxin produced by a fungus(thank God it's not carcinogenic too like alcohol is) that chills you the fuck out. A. Muscaria is also literally yeast + like 2.5 billion years of evolution.

An excerpt from my amanita journal:

Tora said:
I made a tea of 4.5g decarbed for 30 minutes open boiled(added about as much water as I started with)

I was feeling a bit anxious because the come up was a bit stronger than anticipated, so I went to my gf for some sympathy and cuddles. She said she noticed herself becoming more creative just being around me(she was sober as a whistle doing class prep for an online tutor gig). I was there for a while until the vibes changed, then went for a shower.

I was disappointed by the non-amplification of the showering action I had become so accustomed to with the serotonergics, and as if that wasn't enough it felt like I overheated if I showered too long(I thought to myself jesus, even less hedonistic than psilocybin). But while I was in the shower I was reminded of when I was a child looking at those artworks in encyclopedias of dinosaurs, and I remembered my favourite time was the start of the Triassic, when for some reason people liked to paint the dinos with lots of mist in swampy areas. I remember it made me feel so calm as a child wishing I could have been there to witness it for myself.

I suddenly remembered about the great dying and the Triassic that followed it, notwithstanding the fact that major tragedies often precede times of great calm and prosperity, I also remembered this was a time where the Boreal forest was forming with the help of the mycelial networks of the amanitas. The mushrooms took me through a sequence where they gave an embodied explanation of their situation as microorganisms. It took the form of an allegory, where yeast(or alcohol, the spirit of yeast) was the most successful fungus at that point in time. It showed that the alcohol does indeed have wisdom to impart, and it is in fact more ancient than amanitas, which would make it culturally superior in the eyes of most people, except for one aspect; evolution.

The Amanitas made a case for friendship and cooperation, citing the Boreal forest as their shining example. Even though they were the new kids on the block, together with the coniferous trees they built something that spans across most of the known world, and is today more than 300 million years old. They told me that yeast indeed has the more versatile survival strategy, being able to take over any other population of microorganism in a discarded coffee cup for example, but that it often stays just that; a kingdom confined to a discarded coffee cup. If I desire to build anything of value, unfortunately the mold has to be broken, as it were; genuine novelty is much preferred by nature.

And throughout, they keep saying the Boreal forest is still fragile, it could stop existing much easier than yeast. This was insanely therapeutic to hear, since I often criticise myself for being too fragile, too sensitive, but I forget that complex things tend to be fragile, and there isn't anything wrong with that.



Having said that, it is not that recreational at all IME. If I am expecting alcohol I would be disappointed, a sentiment shared by some of my friends. The thing is it removes pain but doesn't fill it in with anything else, so there is little room for escapism(but still some lol). Being a Gaba-A agonist, it's role is to act as a "brake" during dopaminergic signaling cascades(binge behaviour), and that is very much the vibe it gives out. Thus it is very good for anxiety and addiction, and depression is still mainly in the domain of the blue magic mushrooms.

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Tora]
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Tora said:
I like to think of it as grown up alcohol. It is exactly that, a neurotoxin produced by a fungus



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There’s been a new emergence online of misinformation and fear again. If you see people saying muscaria is “a highly toxic mushroom” or that ibotenic acid is bad or dangerous pls send them here. Amanita muscaria gets labeled “toxic” because of old lab studies, from the 1960’s and 70’s but those studies don’t reflect real use.
Scientists took pure ibotenic acid and injected it directly into rat brains to destroy cells.
That bypasses digestion, metabolism, and the blood–brain barrier. That’s not how humans have used it for hundreds of thousands of years. These compounds are packaged in this mushroom for specific biological complex reasons.
In the whole mushroom, ibotenic acid exists inside a highly controlled natural system:
Muscimol provides inhibitory balance at GABA receptors
Ergothioneine and other compounds help regulate oxidative stress
Additional amino acids and lipids influence signaling and absorption through microglial cells and other pathways.
These compounds work together to meter how signaling happens in nerve cells.
They are part of the same system and were never meant to be used in isolation. Separating them is something humans did in the lab.
With actual use:
it’s taken orally, not injected
some ibotenic acid converts into muscimol
the body filters and limits what reaches the brain.
The “toxic” label comes from isolating one compound and injecting it under extreme conditions, not from the highly controlled, whole mushroom context as it it naturally exists. Some people are more sensitive to ibotenic acid than others, so finding your dose is key. Not overdosing is common sense.
A partial conversion of ibotenic acid to muscimol is another common approach, like making my tea recipe and full conversion is another option. These different preparations create different uses and effects, all valuable. The “effects” people quote from ibotenic acid are just overdose effects. Millions of people use this mushroom daily and don’t overdose. It is highly valuable complex NMDA receptor mediated medicine. I follow and report the science and my citations are catalogued.
Come learn AmanitaDreamer.net



https://www.instagram.com/amanitadreaming/p/DXhO7OKDcZS/  2026-04-24

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: s240779]
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If you want to try something premade and ready to use Google search the word calm and you will see a Amanita tincture already made
I’ve tried it for a while and even tried eight times the normal dosage. It just wasn’t for me.

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: 99.99]
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99.99 said:
If you want to try something premade and ready to use Google search the word calm and you will see a Amanita tincture already made
I’ve tried it for a while and even tried eight times the normal dosage. It just wasn’t for me.



I could have written that post. The effect is faint. They came out with a stronger product called Calmer though.

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush]
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They’re everywhere if you find the right spots in Vic Ella. I’ve picked them before down there. It’s like a weed in the pine plantations… high country in vic


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Absolutely thanks for the recs but I have found them growing near me so I wouldn't buy a tincture. Plus I worry it is research chems.

Yes Bardy! There's a grouse pine plantation near me with heaps of pine mushrooms, subs, amanita muscaria and slipper jacks


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush] * 2
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I would stay away from premade tinctures unless you want to micro dose, not all tinctures are decarbed also. I have not tried doses above 5g so I know nothing about the effects on higher doses, but it is my go to for pain management when I can't use weed or if I'm weening off opiates, I get some anxiety relief from it as well and for me it almost removes the opioid withdrawal symptoms. I also use it during weed tolerance breaks as well.

IMO it feels like a mix of alcohol and benzo, or something like that..

The potency vary a lot between the mushrooms, I would recommend to boil/decarb a minimum of 50 - 100 g of dried mushrooms to even out the difference. I usually make tea, and decarb/boil for 30-40mins @ ph ~2.7, for recreational use I think I would recommend a longer decarb, otherwise you might get a headache. For ph modifier I use citric acid, but lemon juice works just as good too.

For tea storage I use 50ml cryo tubes and put in the freezer. For tinctures I use alcohol.

Edited by rotvelta (05/07/26 10:49 AM)

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush] * 2
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"The synergistic antidepressant-like effect induced by a combined administration of subeffective doses of agmatine and muscimol (GABAA receptor agonist) suggests that the activation of GABAA receptors is implicated in the antidepressant-like effect of agmatine."

The involvement of GABAergic system in the antidepressant-like effect of agmatine. Neis, V. B., Rosado, A. F., Olescowicz, G., Moretti, M., Rosa, P. B., Platt, N., Rodrigues, A. L. S. 2020. Naunyn-Schmiedeberg's Archives of Pharmacology, 393(10), 1931–1939.  10.1007/s00210-020-01910-5  Discussion, second paragraph

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush] * 1
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Remember, cracker dry within 24h is the golden rule with mushrooms, whether harvesting or foraging. It would be wise to invest in a good dehydrator that can keep up with the volume amanitas take up, since you don't have to buy the mushrooms anyway

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Tora]
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Thanks everyone:) yeah I have a dehydrator. Although I haven't used in two years so it might be bust haha


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush] * 4
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Found today


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush]
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Get em dry?


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Bardy]
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Nah I didn't pick them. I'll have to go back. I just wanted to pick a haul. Because you need a lot right? Ro dose?


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: ellamush]
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Nah I don’t think you need a lot… they’re pretty potent. I think people recommend like half a cap to start out or something. Not sure


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Bardy]
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Be very careful, they're toxic to the stomach and will make you generally nauseous but won't kill you. You need to dry them with a cracked open oven at a certain temperature I think it's 60 to 90c, but not overcook/dry because it will kill the molecule.

Better off with calea zachetachichi. Get the extract and smoke it.

Classic mushroom... if you live in a tribe in the middle of the Amazon. Not so for us. Maybe witches.

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: rotvelta]
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rotvelta said:
I would stay away from premade tinctures unless you want to micro dose, not all tinctures are decarbed also. I have not tried doses above 5g so I know nothing about the effects on higher doses, but it is my go to for pain management when I can't use weed or if I'm weening off opiates, I get some anxiety relief from it as well and for me it almost removes the opioid withdrawal symptoms. I also use it during weed tolerance breaks as well.

IMO it feels like a mix of alcohol and benzo, or something like that..

The potency vary a lot between the mushrooms, I would recommend to boil/decarb a minimum of 50 - 100 g of dried mushrooms to even out the difference. I usually make tea, and decarb/boil for 30-40mins @ ph ~2.7, for recreational use I think I would recommend a longer decarb, otherwise you might get a headache. For ph modifier I use citric acid, but lemon juice works just as good too.

For tea storage I use 50ml cryo tubes and put in the freezer. For tinctures I use alcohol.



Less than 5g ^^
Dry mushrooms till cracker dry
Boil for 30-40min in water with lemon juice to bring the pH down to roughly 2.5-3

Maybe start by boiling up 10g, and then consume a fifth for a 2g dose to start off, to test potency and how you react. Or a tenth :shrug:

I’ve only tried it once and got sick because I didn’t prepare them properly. I’ve heard it can be rather nice if you dose low and prepare it properly. I think I used half an oven dried cap in a tea, but didn’t boil it for long. People who enjoy these mushrooms usually recommend boiling them for a long time like what rotvelta said.

These mushrooms don’t occur in the Amazon


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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Bardy]
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I've only taken them about 50 times so far, so still a noob, but for me

2.5-3.5g is best for going out
5-8g best for chilling at home but you might trip a bit at times
10g+ you will be in the thick of that Abraxas shit, Shulgin +++ drooling on the couch for at least 6 hours

Boiling at a low ph isn't necessary, but the higher the dose the more agitating ibotenic acid can become, I generally don't lower pH or boil longer than half an hour if the dose is under 5g.

Like s24 said ibotenic acid isn't that dangerous, it is a neurotoxin though(so is alcohol), but it's the safest one we have so far since it stays in localized brain regions and doesn't even continue to do damage beyond the immediate INTRA CRANIAL injection site. Google it: ibotenic acid Vs kainic acid neurotoxicity.
Muscimol is also a very potent and effective depressant and it's neuroprotective, so it mellows out the stimulating ibotenic acid if they are present together(and I personally love the feeling of some ibo in the mix).

Tldr: I know it is tempting but if you stay away from those cold-extract intracranial injections your brain should be fine:awesome:

Edited by Tora (05/11/26 02:12 AM)

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Re: What's your experience with Amanita muscaria? [Re: Tora]
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Interesting. So how often do you feel sick? If at all? And what are the effects you experience when you dose around the 3g mark?


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