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    #2956053 - 08/02/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

  I have 3 cakes and 3 casings birthed a week ago. Still no pins. Temp is 72-78, it varries from day today. Any suggestions on ways to get them pinning? When first birthed they got about a 20 degree drop in temp. down to about 68. I was hoping this would be good for a cold shock but nothin happin. :confused:


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: liquidhits25]
    #2956056 - 08/02/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

don't they need some light?


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: liquidhits25]
    #2956084 - 08/02/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A week is not very long at all. Sometimes it can take 2-3 weeks depends on the strains,light,water,temps,etc...
Dude wait longer and don't look at them every couple hours

Shrooms are shy!!!


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2956195 - 08/02/04 02:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
A week is not very long at all. Sometimes it can take 2-3 weeks depends on the strains,light,water,temps,etc...
Dude wait longer and don't look at them every couple hours

Shrooms are shy!!!



So true! Remember 12-16hrs. of good light too really stimulate pinning. Also I assume you initiated all fruiting parameters at the exact same time? (very important) Like Fucknuckle said in this hobby patience is a virtue!!!! GL bro


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2956266 - 08/02/04 02:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude wait longer and don't look at them every couple hours
Shrooms are shy!!!




what an excellent way to put it!!


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: TODAY]
    #2956288 - 08/02/04 02:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

When I first started I couldn't keep my hands off the jars!!!!

We all learn the hard way I think.


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2956790 - 08/02/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

all fruiting parametrs???? water,moisture,light???? is this what you mean!!!
and yes the handling of jars for the newbie is addictive.it is currently worse than my crack habit,jim :eek:


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: budro]
    #2956827 - 08/02/04 04:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

DON'T SMOKE CRACK IT WILL KILL YOU OR YOUR LIFE

if you were serious


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: liquidhits25]
    #2956880 - 08/02/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

They all get indirect, sunlight from dawn till dusk, temps 72-78, humidity is close to 100% using perlite w/h2o2. Air exchange 3-5 times a day. Golden teacher strain. VBRF.


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2956914 - 08/02/04 05:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

thanx for the advice! but how bout the definition of "all fruiting parameters"JIM


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: budro]
    #2956961 - 08/02/04 05:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I never really got down to the nitty gritty of fruitng parameters I just make sure they get as much humidity as I can get to them and what ever light is avaliable in the room. It works for me

Everyone says temp mid 70's but I just giv'em whatever the day has to offer. 60-90 deg. they always fruit.

But if you want a techbook answer spend sometime reading the fact section here it is loaded with great info, more than you will need.

and check out the grow log forum it has some great stuff also.


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2957105 - 08/02/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I know where you're coming from. I currently have 5 casings and 2 cakes in individual grow chambers and am fighting with myself on a daily basis. I like to grow outdoors because I can just bury them and forget they're there until, BAM one day I gots muchos mushroomos in my back yard. Problem with indoor cult. is that you gotta look at them everyday and it seems like they take SOOOO long to do anything... Keep cool, they will grow...


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: liquidhits25]
    #2957348 - 08/02/04 07:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Fruiting parameters, FAE, light, temp drop are the major triggers for awesome pinsets.


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: hyphae]
    #2957479 - 08/02/04 07:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wish I had a digital cam right now......

There are at this very minute cakes and casing pinning like mad, I mean soooo thick you can't even see the casing at all!!!

And here are the parameters they have been thru past couple weeks

During the night it goes down to about 55-65 deg. Then during the day it can sky rocket to 85-90 deg. Their in the upstairs attic room with no insulation from the sun or snow.

Also some days it can be higher because, despite what I have heard, I dry shrooms in front of a small space heater!! In the same room.

Now when I find the temps so high I can't watch tv because of all the damn heat I put a big fan in the window then the temps plummet 20 deg in like 3 min.

And on top of that some days they don't have no light because they get a blanket thrown over them to keep them from prying eyes!

And as far as air changes shit some days I work 12-14 hours and simply am too tired to give a shit. So sometimes a couple days go bye before they get any air!!!!

And I have know idea what the humidity level is! I only know it's wet in there. LOL

And even with all that going against the propper ways of doing things, I get MAJOR SHROOMAGE

GO FIGURE?


Edited by Fucknuckle (08/02/04 08:07 PM)


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2957900 - 08/02/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
I wish I had a digital cam right now......

There are at this very minute cakes and casing pinning like mad, I mean soooo thick you can't even see the casing at all!!!

And here are the parameters they have been thru past couple weeks

During the night it goes down to about 55-65 deg. Then during the day it can sky rocket to 85-90 deg. Their in the upstairs attic room with no insulation from the sun or snow.

Also some days it can be higher because, despite what I have heard, I dry shrooms in front of a small space heater!! In the same room.

Now when I find the temps so high I can't watch tv because of all the damn heat I put a big fan in the window then the temps plummet 20 deg in like 3 min.

And on top of that some days they don't have no light because they get a blanket thrown over them to keep them from prying eyes!

And as far as air changes shit some days I work 12-14 hours and simply am too tired to give a shit. So sometimes a couple days go bye before they get any air!!!!

And I have know idea what the humidity level is! I only know it's wet in there. LOL

And even with all that going against the propper ways of doing things, I get MAJOR SHROOMAGE

GO FIGURE?




In case ya totally missed the point we were talking pinsetting and on an average you are not going to get those pinsets you say you have period. You go telling people that nothing really matters and you will get awesome pinsets no matter what you do then I'll be the first to say you are no teacher and will only cause people grief where there doesn't need to be. Once pins are set temps like in nature can fluctuate as you said and light can be as little as a few minutes a day but no FAE WILL lead to long stems and small caps (lower yields) which is a direct response to high co2 levels, I've seen this time and time again so I can say without doubt that someone is full of it or God damn lucky don't jinx yourself bro. I say this from 20+yrs. of growing shrooms and I've learned from the best, anyone can grow shrooms but it takes a Pro to do it right consistantly everytime GO FIGURE! :wink: May the shroom Gods shine brightly on your yields everytime! AMEN :laugh:

Heres a few pics from my friend and mentor:







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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: hyphae]
    #2957908 - 08/02/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree popcorn goes like mad

Temps are the key here

the difference in growth between 78 deg and 84 deg. is amazing

you can expect growth twice as fast at 84 deg.

But be careful if you get the temps over 88 deg for more than a couple hours you will stall them big time and over 90 deg. they pretty much die off

Get your temps right and cakes can finish off in 10 days!!


Now i'm confused?


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: hyphae]
    #2957955 - 08/02/04 10:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

dcyans, I'd love to see more pics of that room!


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: JaRRn]
    #2957996 - 08/02/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sure :laugh: You won't see this again at least not in the near future! :wink:









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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: hyphae]
    #2958049 - 08/02/04 11:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thats very nice indeed!  :smile:


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Re: hurry up and pin [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2958179 - 08/02/04 11:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
A week is not very long at all. Sometimes it can take 2-3 weeks depends on the strains,light,water,temps,etc...
Dude wait longer and don't look at them every couple hours

Shrooms are shy!!!





that is so true, the less you fuck with jars,and the less you mess with birthed cakes/casings, the faster you will get shrooms


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