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OfflineTrandoshan
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Detection
    #2955399 - 08/02/04 08:26 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Would dogs be able sniff out a grow if it was still mycelium? What about when they fruit?

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Offlineevilchipmunk
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Re: Detection [Re: Trandoshan]
    #2955435 - 08/02/04 08:43 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Dogs aren't trained to sniff out mushrooms, as far as I know.


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Detection [Re: Trandoshan]
    #2955450 - 08/02/04 08:49 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Can't really answer that one and enless I'd had a police dog sniff where I know I got some stashed. Untill then, I will never know and nether will you despite what anybody says to you.

So unless you talk to somebody who has experienced this first hand your guess is as good as mine

GOOD LUCK


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InvisibleLoki
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Re: Detection [Re: Trandoshan]
    #2955458 - 08/02/04 08:55 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Dogs "CAN" be trained to sniff out "ANY" smell, so yes, they can, but normally, no, they wouldnt be trained for shrooms.

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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Detection [Re: Loki]
    #2955465 - 08/02/04 08:58 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Have you personal trained drug dogs?? or are you like most people and took somebody word for it?

Me if I needed to take a big risk of some sort then I would assume dogs are trained to sniff shrooms

Because the guy who told you that ain't going to come get you out of the slammer


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Re: Detection [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2955471 - 08/02/04 09:01 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

lol, not I havent trained a sniffer dog myself :rolleyes:

What part of what I said do you not like? Seems quite logical to me.

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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Detection [Re: Loki]
    #2955518 - 08/02/04 09:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

LOL it's all in good fun Loki :cool:

The only part I have a problem with is where you make the asumption they the police have not trained the dogs to smell shrooms? 

Who the hell knows that but the cops?

And what is normal training?

If this counter culture of shroomin gets any bigger you can bet that shroom smelling dogs will be everywhere!!

I bet this thread gets moved!! :crazy:


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Re: Detection [Re: Trandoshan]
    #2955568 - 08/02/04 09:28 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Drugs that dogs are trained on.

Marijuana, Hashish, Powder Cocaine, Crack, Methamphetamine, Ecstasy, Heroin, LSD, Oxicotin, Special K, GHB, Zanx

From Cross Creek Training Academy Inc.

http://www.cctapolicek9.com/training_detection.asp

The Info is out there if you look!

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Re: Detection [Re: Cyber]
    #2955572 - 08/02/04 09:30 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

thank you cyber!


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Re: Detection [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2955573 - 08/02/04 09:31 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

My pleasure. :wink:

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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Detection [Re: Cyber]
    #2955960 - 08/02/04 11:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Well you guys take it for what's it worth and defend your ideals

I am by no means saying you are postivly wrong because I not saying I'm right but,

I figure if a dog can smell oxycon. pills it would not be hard to find shrooms

And I don't think Cross Creek Dog school is the only facility in the world?

besides I was only try to point out that things change all the time
and by you saying that " No way does the police have dogs that smell for shrooms" That would be as foolish as saying " They for sure do smell for shrooms"

Which I have not.

Just everybody be careful that is my point.


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OfflineNazrula
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Re: Detection [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2955993 - 08/02/04 11:25 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I agree. Besides, dogs aren't the only things that can send you up the river. Those nosey things called "people" can really make your life miserable. They are nosey and like to flap their lips. All it takes is a matter of time before pol-pol hears it and comes knocking on ya door. Like John Trovolta said in Battlefield Earth "Whenever you engage in a criminal activity always have a patsy." Or better yet, have a back up plan just in case the shit hits the fan. So it never hurts to be too careful.

Maybe I should write a stealth tek.

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Re: Detection [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2956057 - 08/02/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
I am by no means saying you are postivly wrong because I not saying I'm right but,

I figure if a dog can smell oxycon. pills it would not be hard to find shrooms

And I don't think Cross Creek Dog school is the only facility in the world?





I am not saying that is all they train for. Out of 15 sites the 12 listed seem to be the same. You will also find that the NNDDA  (National Narcotic Drug Dog Association) sets the standards for drug dog training. As well as detection amounts and training standards.

I also noticed that almost every site limits the number of agents the dog is tested against to no more than 10.

Now, I know that a dogs nose is sensitive but can they distinguish between any edible and Ps. Cubensis mushrooms? Can we train a dog to find Ps. Cubensis mushrooms? This could greatly increase our chances in the field and would be a good test to see if it can be done!  :laugh:

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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Detection [Re: Cyber]
    #2956074 - 08/02/04 11:49 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I see your point on how hard it would it would be to train a dog to differenciate between magic and reg shrooms... very good point.

I also thankyou for all the research you have done very cool!!

Just added some of thoses sites to my fav's list


On a off note.... A friend of mine successfully trained his dog to find weed plants in the woods....shithead was rippin people off from all their hard work.

I finnaly convicned him to stop. But man did that dog bring home the Buds!!!


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Offlinedmtrypr
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Re: Detection [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2957207 - 08/02/04 04:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

My interaction with the criminal justice system had led me to conclude that shrooms are not high on the list of things cops worry about. Shrooms are still considered a "hippy" drug. Cops DO like to bust people (personal exp.) for going out and picking shrooms. Usually this happens in a field where people have been going shrooming quite often or if its off a highway and a po spots your car. The issue with dogs is that they would probably run amok everytime it rained. As far as I know, the psilocybin in shrooms isn't volatile, so its not like the chemical is floating around in the air, it oxidizes (purple bruises) as soon as it is outside the inside of a shroom. Im sure its "possible" but not "probable".


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Re: Detection [Re: Cyber]
    #2962858 - 08/04/04 01:15 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Cyber said:
Drugs that dogs are trained on.

LSD





glad I am not the only one that has found information on the LSD scent...

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Re: Detection [Re: Trandoshan]
    #2963454 - 08/04/04 08:16 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Dogs have much more powerful senses of smell than we humans and I can smell mycelium in a jar. A dog would have no problem picking that up.

In addition, quarantine dogs in Australia are trained to smell mushrooms, as they are wood, plant materials, meat, honey, fruit, nuts, vegetables and a whole host of stuff that could bring in ag P&D.

If they wanted to train dogs to bust psychedelic mushrooms, they sure could.


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Re: Detection [Re: Starter]
    #2966190 - 08/04/04 09:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Starter said:
Dogs have much more powerful senses of smell than we humans and I can smell mycelium in a jar. A dog would have no problem picking that up.





this makes me curios if they are capable of sniffing something is a sealed bottle or jar, like home canned foods...

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Re: Detection [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2967026 - 08/05/04 06:54 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Dogs have much more powerful senses of smell than we humans and I can smell mycelium in a jar. A dog would have no problem picking that up.




Just because a dog can smell mycelium, does not mean that the dog can tell the difference between a legal species of mycelium and an illegal species of mycelium. If the dog cannot tell the difference, the the LEO cannot use the dog for probable cause.

> are [dogs] capable of sniffing something is a sealed bottle or jar

If the jar is sealed, with a reduced partial pressure (partial vacuum within the container), then no. But, if there are any traces of a detectable chemical on the outside of the container, the dog will still pick up on it.

It is pretty easy to train a young dog how to sniff out a drug or two, if you have access to the drugs you want the dog to find. Once trained, you can use your own dog to see how good your methods are. I was amazed at what my friends dog could, and could not find...

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Re: Detection [Re: Seuss]
    #2967220 - 08/05/04 08:40 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Seuss beat me to it! :smile:

I too find it hard to believe that it can tell the difference. The biggest reason is that if a dog could be trained there is a pretty good chance that some one would have done it by now. There are plenty of farm boys with dogs out hunting active mushrooms. Although A pig may be able to tell the difference! They are used in truffle hunting. Can you picture it? The PIG pulls out a pig to sniff your car. :wink:

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