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Offlined33p
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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: blu3]
    #2953373 - 08/01/04 07:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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I want to know about the oil situation. I know in the 70ties there was an oil crisis, I know that we all here will see the day when oil in America will be $6-8 a gallon, I know we can literally count the years till there is NO more oil. I know people like to ignore this situation as if it was theory not fact. I wanna know about that. Why isn't anyone talking about the oil situation. It was common knowledge in the 70ties (80??). Why did it lose it's importance which is should have gained. Oil isn't renewable.




The oil crisis in the 70s was a complete product of OPEC's actions. They got annoyed with us so they wanted to screw us for a lil while. Hopefully friendly nations in the middle-east will prevent this from happening.


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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: blu3]
    #2953536 - 08/01/04 07:40 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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And, for some reason that makes me wonder about the legitimacy of these candidates, the campaigning process, even the elections. Does it really matter who wins??




not really... kerry may take the road less traveled to acheive the goals of this government, regardless, they are both the same sack of shit and the other candidates are delusional for believeing they have a chance of winning in the next 80 years


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Think back to Clintons campaign promises and his opinions on the issues of that time, did anything actually really change?




many htings changed under clinton, I disliked clinton as a president and would have liked Gore even less considering he is a part of the 'Oral Minority' that has deemed Rock&Roll to be devils music and promoteing book burning and a wide variety of other christian agenda items but by far he would surely have been better than Bush and his new found Christianity and John "Cats are the Devil and I cant even beat a dead candidate for a senate seat" Ashcroft

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I remember worrying that Clinton would change healthcare like he *said he would* and insurance would mean nothing, they would lower the quality of healthcare.




MAybe you havent noticed but the price of health care has escaleated, the quality has dropped, your insurance benefits are dropping while the premiums are going up, is it a conflict of intrest for insurance companies to provide both health care insurance and and malpractice insurance...


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The war won't end with Bush. In fact, I don't have a clear memory of Kerry making specific statements about the War other then maybe saying he disagrees or doesn't like it or some vague opinion. That's a pretty fucking important issue don't yall think?




I have a clear memeory of John Kerry aiding in the passage of the Patriot act, I also know that he now flounders on that to get votes, I remember him saying many things similar to what you have mentioned and also believe that Kerry may just continue bushs fight regardless of the 'promises' made, Kerry will also help to erode away the rights and liberties of the american people once again but he is smart enough to be more covert in these acts... is the smart one better or the stupid one.


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I want to know about the oil situation. I know in the 70ties there was an oil crisis, I know that we all here will see the day when oil in America will be $6-8 a gallon




SCAM... the whole thing was a scam between OPEC and the US to increase the amount we spend on gas.

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I know we can literally count the years till there is NO more oil. I know people like to ignore this situation as if it was theory not fact.




again its a scam, the US has the resources to last more than 200 more years, I've seen the maps that show active, capped, tapped and prospective oil drilling sites in the easter half of the US, the appalaichains are dotted with oil through a 2000 mile stretch, the coastal water, plenty still in texas that isnt being used... the US doesnt want to use these reserves in order to keep a falsely inflated gas price and to have a source for when the OPEC nations run dry.


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I wanna know about that. Why isn't anyone talking about the oil situation. It was common knowledge in the 70ties (80??). Why did it lose it's importance which is should have gained. Oil isn't renewable.




The price is claimed to be its higest in many years, $43 per parrel by some reports and $42 in other, in a manor of speaking its true, 20 years ago it closed at a similar price and also achieved that "highest" ranking then. the Gas price at the time was $1.25 per gallon, what makes for the difference if both prices are close to the same... How about Kerry and many other voting on a 50 cent gas tax, the clinton era doing the same... the price of crude oil may be high but it's effect on gas prices is actualy insignifigant in comparison to the taxes we pay on fuel


here's and example. There are 42 gallons in the barrel of crude oil and 44 gallons in products produced from it, 50% is gasoline, a total of 80% is fuels and the 'waste' products go for as high as $30/pint in products like RainX and laboratory solvents and the like then why is the concern over $42 for 44 gallons so great... it's not, its the taxes.. Ga has a 7% tax and montana a 28% tax plus the federal taxes on the fuels where do you think these prices are coming from... this is also why gas prices fluctuate so dramaticly through out the US
knowing what we pay for it just imaging how badly the Europeans are being raped


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We really need to start asking better questions or there's just no fucking hope.




ask all you want and good luck at getting a coherent answer, they are politicians, lawyers in most cases, they are well versed in doublespeak and saying so much with out saying anything at all

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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: d33p]
    #2953555 - 08/01/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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The oil crisis in the 70s was a complete product of OPEC's actions. They got annoyed with us so they wanted to screw us for a lil while. Hopefully friendly nations in the middle-east will prevent this from happening.




do you thing that the US government wasnt capitolizing on this. it's much deeper than you will learn about in news articles. Its also no different than whats going on today, the 'allied' powers have control of Iraqs oil why have the prices not dropped... another question, why has my dividend payments not increased with this huge jump in oil prices since the start of the war, why has my stock value remained reasonable consistant... where the hell is that money going.

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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2953591 - 08/01/04 07:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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d33p said:
The oil crisis in the 70s was a complete product of OPEC's actions. They got annoyed with us so they wanted to screw us for a lil while. Hopefully friendly nations in the middle-east will prevent this from happening.




do you thing that the US government wasnt capitolizing on this. it's much deeper than you will learn about in news articles. Its also no different than whats going on today, the 'allied' powers have control of Iraqs oil why have the prices not dropped... another question, why has my dividend payments not increased with this huge jump in oil prices since the start of the war, why has my stock value remained reasonable consistant... where the hell is that money going.




Well i haven't gone to sleep in about 5 days due to stimulants so tmr when I'm rested i will respond. As for now; i do not believe.


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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: d33p]
    #2953652 - 08/01/04 08:07 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I'll dig out a couple of books to and try and point you towards some other information... I like to read both sides of whats going on... I'm pretty heavily invested in Mobil/Exxon and BP/Ammoco so todays oil quiestions I try to stay current on.

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Re: So why should i vote for bush? [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #2953692 - 08/01/04 08:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Why should you vote for Bush

If you make over 200,000 a year you will receive noticeable tax cuts

You will piss off a lot of people if he wins, which would be funny

He helps reduce overpopulation in the Middle East

He wants to help our children by drug testing him

He will tap take away our rights to privacy but will also take away the terrorists' rights to privacy

He won't be a pussy to UN "suggestions"

Kerry is just as bad anyway

Vote for Nader or the GP or the LP, your vote will be worth more percentage wise to those parties while the Democratss and Republicans already have the nation split almost halfway except for a 5% chunk


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