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10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry
    #2947448 - 07/31/04 05:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

lays out kerry's position on the war...

Every single one of them.

Worth watching.

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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: Cracka_X]
    #2947488 - 07/31/04 05:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Interresting, I hadn't seen more than 90% of those clips. He sure seems like a fip flopper there. Good thing I was never a Kerry supporter, just a Bush hater. If only Nader had a realistic chance. Oh well, looks like it needs to be the lessor of two evils. So Kerry it is. At least he says the war was a mistake now, Bush won't even do that. It's better to flop into the right column than to stay the course in the wrong.


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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: Cracka_X]
    #2948462 - 07/31/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hooboy,
oh well, he could still be a good president maybe.


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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: question_for_joo]
    #2948494 - 07/31/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

jesus christ no, NO NO NO you people, think about things for a minute and understand what i've posted several times.. maybe i need to do it more often.


If the choice is between a president whose policies you know and disagree with, and a president whose policies are permanently "in flux".. you ALWAYS go with the honest man.

Why?

Because at least then you know what you have to protest against and keep an eye on.
With Kerry who the hell KNOWS where he'll go next. Just flip flop flap around, jump from here to there and back to here but on the other side of the line, and in the end do you know what happens?

We get a big thick cock up our asses the first time somebody puts enough money in front of his face to get him to stop jumping around for two weeks.

And I'm not a fan of getting ass-raped by some horse-faced nancy.


I'd rather elect Al Sharpton. I'd trust him to take a stance and hold it LONG before Kerry. fuck man. I'd bet Jesse Jackson would be more straight-forward and steadfast about his opinions, and if you note I just used "Jesse Jackson" and "straight-forward" in the same sentence.


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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2948617 - 07/31/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

personally, i hate sharpton and jackson just as much as I hate kerry.. and carter.. and gore.. and clinton.

Clinton was just a great liar. I don't see how people could want a man who can't get a grasp on some solid stands. And when the hell is he going to say what he's going to do? I'm tired of "A BETTER America" "A BETTER plan for Iraq" "A BETTER health plan"

TELL ME THIS "BETTER" PLAN YOU GOT!


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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2948822 - 07/31/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

If the choice is between a president whose policies you know and disagree with, and a president whose policies are permanently "in flux".. you ALWAYS go with the honest man.




wait, Bush himself has made some incredible flipflops in the last 4 years - much more fundamental flipflops than Kerry has ever made. Should they be listed yet again on this forum? And, I should add, that Bush is hardly known for his honesty and integrity and openness.


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Re: 10 minutes of your time to watch this clip of Kerry [Re: Cracka_X]
    #2948970 - 07/31/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

all politicians are flip floppy flakes and this Michael Moore style editing of these Kerry clips is highly unconvincing. It's called context and none of these in the their original context. This sort of thing is just as manipulative as Moore's new movie and I'm not surprised by it at all.

Anytime i'm shown a quick sound bite thats cut off mid-sentance or a quote has ... somewhere in it i know there is somethere there the editor didn't want me to see.

That being said whether kerry is or was pro war is hardly important, whats improtant is if his plan for seeking a resolution to the war is sound and feasable.

A politician flip flopping? Happens everyday its annoying and sad but nearly every politician is guilty of this one way or another including Bush himself.

Bottom line is neither of the men is going to make a huge difference in the state this nation and once again we're faced with a decision between who we think will "fuck thing sup less". And its just a sad state of affairs.

I definetly cannot and willnot vote for Bush and I still cant decide if voting kerry is soemthign i can do with a clean conscience. I dont ahve faith in either man.


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