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Tell us what WMD have been found
    #2946867 - 07/31/04 01:42 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Could our friendly neighbourhood righties inform us precisely why they believe WMD have been found when Blair, David Kay, Kerry and everyone else says they havn't?

What exactly are these WMD's? What sources are you using?


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Xlea321]
    #2946891 - 07/31/04 01:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I've found plenty of WMDs...



Words of Mass Deception, they're all over the American press


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Xlea321]
    #2947096 - 07/31/04 02:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://cbs11tv.com/investigations/local_story_330180036.html
They've been found............in Teaxas!


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Xlea321]
    #2948245 - 07/31/04 01:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The WMDs were real! there were thse two old rusty shells found and one went off and made two soliders sick, but they turned out a-okay because America kicks ass. Seemed like even the "terrorists" or Baath party dinosaurs who utilized the shells didnt even realize they contained mustard gas/serin - its because the shells they were so well disguised.

See, the war was justified. An incredible threat that required an immediate invasion if I ever saw one! It's like Pearl Harbor man - we had no choice.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Vvellum]
    #2948256 - 07/31/04 01:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah man like all those WMDs we gave them 20 years ago and now we are like.. We know you have them! damn terrorists harboring weapons of mass destruction we gave them.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Shroomism]
    #2948272 - 07/31/04 01:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"'Iraq... they have phenomenal weapons... phenomenal...'

'How do you know?'

'Uhhhhh... we checked the reciept... but I tell ya as soon as that check clears, we're goin in. When does the bank open? 9 AM? We're goin in at 10!!'"


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Xlea321]
    #2948395 - 07/31/04 02:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

What exactly are these WMD's? 



Marines, special ops,CIA,tomahawk missles, failed political policy, capped by an egomaniacal CIC
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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: whiterasta]
    #2948408 - 07/31/04 02:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"The WMDs were real! there were thse two old rusty shells found and one went off and made two soliders sick, but they turned out a-okay because America kicks ass. Seemed like even the "terrorists" or Baath party dinosaurs who utilized the shells didnt even realize they contained mustard gas/serin - its because the shells they were so well disguised. "

^^

exactly. he was hiding and lying about this we KNEW were pretty much rotted out by now, but it wasn't a clever lie, it was a lie when he, us, and everyone else knew that he was hiding things and lying to their face.

if he'd do that, then yes i would assume other things were being hidden and lied about.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2948636 - 07/31/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

can you conceive of the high possibility that these old, rusty shells fell through the cracks of the massive and failing bureacracy of the old Iraqi regime? I think the fact that the so-called terrorists or Baathists who rigged the shells up as IEDs didnt even realize what was inside of them lends credence to idea that the shells were just laying around in junk unbeknownst to all.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #2948663 - 07/31/04 03:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How amazingly little actual evidence will be accepted for the threat of Iraq's WMD's. Two rusty shells? Have a fucking look across Viet Nam and note how many unexploded conventional and Napalm devices litter the landscape.Now tell me who is the REAL danger re; WMD's
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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: whiterasta]
    #2948711 - 07/31/04 03:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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How amazingly little actual evidence will be accepted for the threat of Iraq's WMD's.




It's called being desperate.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Vvellum]
    #2948750 - 07/31/04 03:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Why do you think that the terrorists who detonated these didn't know they were gas shells?


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2948777 - 07/31/04 03:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

look back at the reports of when it happened. I even remember the military spokesmen admitted that they obviously did not know what they were doing; I believe the shells had to be denotated a certain way to release the gas. They were not.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Vvellum]
    #2950390 - 08/01/04 12:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Just because they couldn't detonate it properly doesn't mean they didn't know what they were.

They were artillery shells. They were made to be fired from a gun. The rifling of the barrel induces spin into the shell which contains two components, that mix from the centripetal force. It isn't actually sarin until then. Having no gun with which to properly spin this, or an appartus to simulate it, would have rendered these inneffective.

Even if they did know it was sarin, they may not have known it needed to be mixed. If they did, they may have lacked the ability to mix it. It may have been attempted and unnsuccesful.

I don't know and neither do you, only those who did it do. I think it's probably 50/50, unless you can give me convincing reason to believe otherwise.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2950425 - 08/01/04 01:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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HagbardCeline said:
Why do you think that the terrorists who detonated these didn't know they were gas shells?




terrorists, meaning the US military as they are to one that set off shell...


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2950623 - 08/01/04 02:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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terrorists, meaning the US military as they are to one that set off shell... 




Isn't point of view a powerful lesson....
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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: whiterasta]
    #2950643 - 08/01/04 02:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yes it is... was it defending ones people or a pre-emptive strike or a terrorist attack.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2950650 - 08/01/04 02:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Right you are. My mistake.

If I remember correctly though, wasn't it just intercepted before it exploded.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2950662 - 08/01/04 02:26 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

again, intercepted would be from a media POV... dug out of the ground in a disposal area would be a little more accurate.


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Re: Tell us what WMD have been found [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2950774 - 08/01/04 03:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The rifling of the barrel induces spin into the shell which contains two components, that mix from the centripetal force.

Except as Scott Ritter points out this was most likely fired by the Iraqis years ago and was a dud and been lying in the desert ever since.

BTW, is this the full extent of WMD's found? A rusty artillery shell?


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