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Are These? Copelandia cyanescens *DELETED*
    #2946808 - 07/31/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: thewolvebrigade]
    #2946825 - 07/31/04 01:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not copelandias sorry.


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: thewolvebrigade]
    #2946843 - 07/31/04 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I am in new york.




You wont be finding them anywhere near there... Nor anything active besides a possible Panaeolus subbalteatus!


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: angryshroom]
    #2947254 - 07/31/04 03:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Definately not copes. Copelandia cyanescens don't grow north of Flordia to my knowledge(could be possible in costal south GA and SC). They also only grow *on* dung. No dice, sorry man.


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: thewolvebrigade]
    #2947263 - 07/31/04 03:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

those seem to resemble Conocybe lactea [ a common lawn mushroom which is toxic] or some similar species.


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: canid]
    #2948048 - 07/31/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Panaeolus subbalteatus so these arent so rare? Does anyone know off hand what active mushrooms are more common in new york. I would really like to find some. Ive read that faqs on here and mushrooms in your location. Im asking for personal experience.


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: thewolvebrigade]
    #2949168 - 07/31/04 05:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

trust me if it says it in the "when and where" faq then just go by that.


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Re: Are These? Copelandia cyanescens [Re: canid]
    #2970841 - 08/06/04 03:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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concretefeet said:
Conocybe lactea [a common lawn mushroom which is toxic]




Is it?! :eek:


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Toxicity of Conocybe lactea [Re: ivi]
    #2970957 - 08/06/04 05:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



O.k. I think I found the answer to my own question.


http://titles.cambridge.org/journals/journal_article.asp?mnemonic=MYC&pii=S0953756203008190

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Mycological Research
Volume 107, Issue 8 (pp 969 - 979)

Heather E. HALLEN, Roy WATLING, Gerard C. ADAMS


Taxonomy And Toxicity Of Conocybe Lactea And Related Species



Abstract
Conocybe lactea was examined as part of a larger study on the distribution of amatoxins and phallotoxins in fungi, and the taxonomic relationships between these fungi. As amatoxins are present in the congener C. filaris, the locally abundant C. lactea was examined using HPLC and mass spectroscopy. Amatoxins were not found in C. lactea, but the related phallotoxins were present in small quantities making it the first fungus outside of the genus Amanita in which phallotoxins have been detected. Despite the presence of a related toxin, C. lactea was found not to be taxonomically close to C. filaris. Phylogenetic analyses using nuclear ribosomal RNA genes indicated that North American specimens of C. lactea were conspecific with North American specimens of C. crispa in Conocybe sect. Candidae. European C. crispa was a distinct taxon. The implications of the use of the name C. albipes for these taxa are discussed. Nucleotide data confirmed placement of the sequestrate taxon Gastrocybe lateritia in sect. Candidae, but as a distinct taxon. It is hypothesized that the unique sequestrate morphology of G. lateritia may be caused by a bacterial infection.




http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Conocybe_lactea.html

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Edibility unknown, but too small and unsubstantial to be of culinary value.




http://www.uoguelph.ca/~gbarron/GILL%20FUNGI/BROWN/conocybe.htm

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While its edibility is not known, there are no reports that it has caused problems in children who might have consumed it in their travels across the lawn. (..) Edibility unknown but not reported as poisonous.




http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/fieldbio/jackel/White%20Dunce%20Cap.html

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Edible





This mushroom is kind of special to me, because I remember when I just got interested in the 5th kingdom, in one of my first mushroom hunts I misidentified Conocybe lactea for dry Psilocybe semilanceata and consumed more than 30 specimens :shrug:

Thanks god the amounts of toxins in this mushroom are small and I didn't have any (ill or other) effects, although at that moment I was pretty sure I was tripping :laugh: The moon and the stars were jumping and waving, colours got brighter. It was only the next morning that I understood that the moon and the stars had acted like that because I was looking at them over the fire (turbulence :laugh:) and the brightness of colours was placebo + cleaning the glasses. Oh anticipations... first of new realms and then - of horrible death :laugh:



P.S. I would be very pleased if someone could post the whole article "Taxonomy And Toxicity Of Conocybe Lactea And Related Species" or any other publication on this topic.


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Re: Toxicity of Conocybe lactea [Re: ivi]
    #2972269 - 08/06/04 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What was that one rule...? Oh ya, if you're not 110% sure, then don't eat it!


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Re: Toxicity of Conocybe lactea [Re: mycoguy]
    #2972273 - 08/06/04 04:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:yesnod:



Maybe someone learns something from this little story from my past.


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