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OfflineAneglakya
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Pineal Tea: Seed combo
    #2944755 - 07/30/04 02:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I was looking through my inventory when I found a large amount of Griffonia simplicifolia seed. This is known to contain 5-htp... ... I suddenly had the idea of making a tea that combines Mucuna pruriens (which contains levo-dopamine, dmt, and analouges) with Griffonia to produce a powerfull mood enhancing tea.. Has anyone here ever worked with griffonia or extracts there of?


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2946509 - 07/30/04 11:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i'm not too familiar withy griffonia at all, neither am I with mucuna except for having heard them mentioned a time or two, but I'm very interested in the results of this experiment. Keep us posted.


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2947548 - 07/31/04 07:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The combination sounds very interesting i have had a fascination on Mucuna for a long time,so rich in alkaloids and containing both tryptamines and levodopamine.It just strikes me as amazing,i would like to have a close look at the enzymes that are expressed in the seed and lead to such interesting alkaloid content!

Such a teat would affect both serotonin system and dopamine system ,expect some very interesting results.The least that one could come up with those plants could be a nice tonic,a very nice mood lifter.

To take advantage of Mucuna's "DMT and analogues" content ,one would have to employ a MAOI such as Harmine/Harmaline (well,stating the obvious so far!).The only problem i can envision is interaction between this MAOI and 5-HTP content of Griffonia seeds.It calls for carefull experimentation and may also take some time to find "the golden ratio" that gives the best results!!!

On the other hand ,i have been reading A'neglakya's posts (under his/hers various usernames) for a long time so as to know that this person is neither a stranger to plants and experimentation nor a stranger to safety issues. If you choose to experiment please keep us up to date with the progress.

A side-note , a friend of mine back in the times when i studiied in England has found Griffonia to be a very good mood enhancer (he used it mainly for "pre loading" for his MDMA sessions)..He mentioned using a hot water extraction using acidified water and finely powdered seeds.I did not ask for exact dosages at the time,so i suggest to take my rambling with a pinch of salt!


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: Aneglakya]
    #4032937 - 04/09/05 01:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hmmm cant believe i missed this thread....better late than never.

anyhting happen with this? still have them?

i am REALLY interested to know if you got any growing!


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: kadakuda]
    #4033696 - 04/09/05 10:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well i think the pineal tea project stuck in the "drawing board" unless the started of the thread has more news on it...Such an interestic topic!


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: Psiloman]
    #4034514 - 04/09/05 04:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

thats fair enough. honestly im more interested in hearing about the griffonia, not so much the others. would love to know more about those!


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: kadakuda]
    #4035028 - 04/09/05 07:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Nice little experiment. I've had a very very bad time with 5-htp, totally accidental, so just a fair warning :smile: You obviously know your shit, just thought i'd throw that in.


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Re: Pineal Tea: Seed combo [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4036521 - 04/10/05 09:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Was it an overdose on 5HTP? In very high doses this compound carries a certain amount of danger and hence the discussion about this tea and its "otpimization" to be both safe and usefull...

Anyone care to speakon griffonia,thingsl ike how is it to grow,percentages of 5HTP etc etc? I searched Dr Duke's database for more info on its chemical constituents to no avail...


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