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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945596 - 07/30/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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rogue_pixie said: Go and stuff your face with dead cow.
I already did this morning. I plan on eating dead pig for dinner.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945612 - 07/30/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Logic: and instrument used for bolshering and prejudice"
Rings true.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945614 - 07/30/04 04:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Animal research is inherently unethical, inevitably wasteful, and wholly unreliable. The U.S. alone squanders billions per year on animal experiments, much of which is funded by taxpayers, even though alternatives are less expensive and can be used repeatedly. And what do we get for our money? Too much suffering for too little knowledge.
99% of the animals killed in the United States do not die in research, rather they are slaughtered to provide food. The meat industry, however, presents a difficult target for activists do to their large budgets and strong political ties. This causes most animal rights activists to go after "cruel" animal researchers as they generally have less security and less money for legal battles. As someone who has researched on animals before (European Starlings) I can tell you it is a difficult process to get research permits for any animal more developed than a rat. To say we get little knowledge from animal experiments is both uneducated and unsubstantiated. A great amount of knowledge can be garnered from animal experiments. Don't take my word on it, PM me and I can link you to hundreds of papers involving animal research, from prefection of surgical techniques, to gaining a better understanding of how the endocrine system works. So if you want to be a real animal activist, first make sure you are vegan, then get out and convince others to be vegetarian, and finally lobby the meat industry for more sanitary conditions.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945616 - 07/30/04 04:10 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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No wonder you're all pro - animal slaughtering.
Murderer.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: DeepDish2]
#2945624 - 07/30/04 04:13 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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How dare you try telling me what to do. I know all about the meat industry thanks. PM me and I shall link you to many papers proving that animals research is POINTLESS and potentially DANGEROUS. I don't care if you've been in the industry - as far as I'm concerened that makes you even more blind.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945633 - 07/30/04 04:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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rogue_pixie said: "Logic: and instrument used for bolshering and prejudice"
Rings true.
It seems you don't even know the meaning of the word, no wonder why your are so hostile to it's usage. Here, this should help alleviate your ignorance.
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945644 - 07/30/04 04:20 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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rogue_pixie said: No wonder you're all pro - animal slaughtering. Murderer.
I like my steaks just a little charred on the outside. When I slice into the flesh with a sharp knife, I love to see the blood fill the bottom of my plate. Then I soak it up with bread, put the dripping bread in my mouth and suck the blood out with delight.
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945645 - 07/30/04 04:21 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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So you think I'm ignorant just because I don't agree with you. Right. Bye.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945652 - 07/30/04 04:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Har har, how did I guess that was coming. You're just showing yourself up to be even more childish and immature.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945663 - 07/30/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I, for one, think you're ignorant because of the things you write.
How do anarchists resolve conflicts among themselves?
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: zappaisgod]
#2945668 - 07/30/04 04:29 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've answered in the other topic.
Yes, brandish me ignorant because you don't agree with me.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945671 - 07/30/04 04:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Once again, that's not why. For instance I disagree often with Evolving, but I don't think he is ignorant. "Brandish" is not the right word here. That didn't help.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: zappaisgod]
#2945681 - 07/30/04 04:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't give a hoot what YOU think.
Go suck an egg.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945687 - 07/30/04 04:36 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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rogue_pixie said: So you think I'm ignorant just because I don't agree with you.
No, you display ignorance by being unable to back up your assertions and showing a disdain for rational thought. I am quite willing to consider that animal research is replaceable with other techniques should you be able to present facts and discuss the matter rationally.
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945690 - 07/30/04 04:37 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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How dare you try telling me what to do.
Telling you what to do? I was only pointing out that most animal rights activists are misguided when they focus all their attention on researchers.
I don't care if you've been in the industry - as far as I'm concerened that makes you even more blind.
The industry? What industry are you talking about here, and how does my experiance with animal research make me more blind? It seems the only way to "not be blind" is to agree with your uninformed assertations. Yes I think I have a good understanding of how the use of animals has benifited the scientific community. Just because you have links from an activist website that says animal research is unessecary hardly negates the fact that significant progress has been made due to animals.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945691 - 07/30/04 04:37 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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rogue_pixie said: Go suck an egg.
A fertilized, viable egg?
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: DeepDish2]
#2945704 - 07/30/04 04:41 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was referring to you saying I should be vegan then go preach to others trying to convert them into being vegetarian. *laughs*
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945708 - 07/30/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those eggs are lumpy. Yeccchhh.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: Evolving]
#2945710 - 07/30/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Being unable to conform to YOUR idea of rational thought you mean.
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Re: New Laws Against Animal Rights Activists [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2945714 - 07/30/04 04:43 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well then, please tell us yours.
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