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Offlinecybrbeast
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True truths can be found
    #2944570 - 07/30/04 02:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

please tell me they can


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2944578 - 07/30/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

only if you stop posting, then the truth will be found


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2944958 - 07/30/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

I don't think this post is going to go anywhere productive..
Cybrbeast, I have no idea what you're talking about in 90% of your posts, and this one is no exception.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: lukeboots]
    #2945030 - 07/30/04 03:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

jonnywax said:
:lol:

I don't think this post is going to go anywhere productive..
Cybrbeast, I have no idea what you're talking about in 90% of your posts, and this one is no exception.




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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2945058 - 07/30/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Are there any other kinds of truths? Such as false truths?


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: Evolving]
    #2945068 - 07/30/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Truth be told , the truth lies in ur beliefs...


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: Evolving]
    #2945308 - 07/30/04 04:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Evolving said:
Are there any other kinds of truths? Such as false truths?




yes.
consequently, everything is true.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: BleaK]
    #2945443 - 07/30/04 05:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing but truth can exist in the universe. It's impossible.

It's like in that interview with that guy and some other guy:

"GREATER POOP: Is Eris true?
MALACLYPSE THE YOUNGER: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it."


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2945464 - 07/30/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Your mom's true  :razz: (JK)  :tongue:


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2945476 - 07/30/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The soul thirsts for knowledge.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: Revelation]
    #2945660 - 07/30/04 06:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"Nothing but truth can exist in the universe."

Right on Revelation.

To be is to be true. Truth is one of the transcendental perfections, cutting across all of reality.

When we say that something is false, we are saying that it is not true, and therefore does not exist.

The same can be said of good and evil. Goodness being a transcendental perfection, all things that are, are good.

When we say that something is evil, what we really mean is that it is not as good as it should be.

Absolute falsehood and absolute evil would be a total privation of being, and therefore can not exist.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: Revelation]
    #2945738 - 07/30/04 06:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Revelation said:
Nothing but truth can exist in the universe. It's impossible.

It's like in that interview with that guy and some other guy:

"GREATER POOP: Is Eris true?
MALACLYPSE THE YOUNGER: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it."




No. The Truth is not everything. Just a perfect part of it.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: Crobih]
    #2945921 - 07/30/04 07:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Crobih said:
Quote:

Revelation said:
Nothing but truth can exist in the universe. It's impossible.

It's like in that interview with that guy and some other guy:

"GREATER POOP: Is Eris true?
MALACLYPSE THE YOUNGER: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it."




No. The Truth is not everything. Just a perfect part of it.




so what is am imperfect part of everything?


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2945927 - 07/30/04 07:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

damn hes not banned yet? please send this bullshit somewhere else


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2945947 - 07/30/04 07:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

truth can be found in everything that you experience. WE each experience out own personal truths, or does it???

my question to all of you who believe there is nothing but truth, does truth have to be absolute? in other words, I could experience a certain situation and respond to it accordingly. the result could be somehting that I deem as "good" now does this make the way I handled the situation true? if it works out in "my favor" does that mean in my favor=truth?? because if it is, then truth is nothing more than a thought that is caused by the ego.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: n0xious]
    #2945952 - 07/30/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

noxious...I udnerstand, but something good can come out of any situation. it's not how it starts, and how it ends, but what is done inbetween.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: kaiowas]
    #2946681 - 07/31/04 12:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Truth, like goodness, is only absolute in the absolute being; in the Christian tradition this is God.

However all other things that exist are true and good to a lesser magnitude.

Your question Kaiowas is an ethical question because it deals with doing. My statements about the transcendental perfections relate to being.


There are three branches of philosophy which address the three main verbs in every language: Metaphysics (to be), epistemology (to know), and ethics (to do).

When I say that all things are good, I am speaking metaphysically (being), however, actions (ethics, doing) can be evil in so far as they reduce the greater good of being as a whole.

This is the problem of evil. If the absolute being is absolutely good, then why is there evil in the world? The answer is simple yet leads to other questions.

There are other rational beings in the world, capable of acting (doing, ethics) in a way which reduces the greater good of all reality. These actions are considered evil because they cause a privation of the good. Those who do these evil acts are good in themselves, yet their actions are evil because these actions result in a deminishment of the good present in the universe.

Simply stated all things are good and true, but actions can be evil and false if they reduce the sum total of good and truth in reality.

Does this make any sense?


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: shroomydan]
    #2946932 - 07/31/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Your posts are leading no where, they are gibberish...take up another hobby.


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: cybrbeast]
    #2947325 - 07/31/04 03:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think this persons thread, while nonsensical at first, has unmasked many hateful people here in S&P. I thought the responses were all out our proportion to the offense. I think some of you have some soul searching to do.. (Magnum, castaway, etc.)

Yes, there is freedom of speech, but within limits whether you like them or not. There are no flames here in S&P. They are against the rules. They are designed to keep this forum from becoming OTD- the little children playroom. We debate things civilly here, without acting like petty children. If you don't like it you should go elsewhere where the rules support your childishness.

I like this forum because it is for adults and people who act responsibily while exploring our reality. I love this forum and I also respect it!  :thumbup:


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Re: True truths can be found [Re: kaiowas]
    #2947795 - 07/31/04 10:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Personal Truths ...hmmm....

How is a "True Truth " Defined? Could be defined as "The truth commonly accepted".DNA has four bases Adenine,Guanine,Cytosine,THymin.THis is a true truth,not the words but the meaning they stand for (you could call Thymine ,Avavavin and still stand True!)

So ,ok we are on the quest for True Truths.What is the practicallity,the use of "truth"? If my information of how to build a rocket and how to launch it of is false then the rocket project is going to fail.Is truth "a set of information that can be used in a manner giving the expected result we are after"? Then ,yes,personal Truths come into play.

Does it work for me? Yes! Then for me it is true! Can something work for me and not for other people? Quite propable.Does this make it "False"? It certainly doesnt ,that why there are phrases like "Your Mileage May Vary".

A true Truth is that i just typed this message,and it is also a personal truth (well,at least i am diagnosed with multiple personalities).So there you go,you have a true Truth demonstrated!


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