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RiceCake
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Possible Cobweb? (Pic)
#2909230 - 07/20/04 03:53 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm still on my first grow and most of my cakes look OK apart from one. It differs from the rest in that it has feathery growth on it:
I believe it's probably mycelium, but it looks different from my other cakes which don't have this so I thought I should check. The cake put out this growth before the last (third) flush; this time the featheryness is more pronounced.
I'm growing B+ following PF tek, plus dunking between flushes. (Two other cakes have finished their 4th flush's. Both have yeilded 130g total each. Not relevant, but I thought people might be interested).
Any comments appreciated
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Dragonaut
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2909249 - 07/20/04 04:00 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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could just be overlay.
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2909454 - 07/20/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks like growth to me. check out my post in this forum about my cobweb... now THAT's cobweb... what you have is growth... simple yet very beautiful... growth.
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2911703 - 07/21/04 09:09 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmmm, i have some doubts but i think that's mycelium growing. Give it some more time, you'll know then ....
MAIA
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RiceCake
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: MAIA]
#2912093 - 07/21/04 11:24 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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The growth isn't as rampant as alienated's, but then I have been dunking in water with h2o2, so perhaps that's been retarding the cobweb, if that's what it is. Thanks for the comments. I'll give it a week and then post another picture.
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2915277 - 07/22/04 09:12 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Depending on the solution strength, h2o2 can also retard mycelium growth. Anyway, we'll be waiting for those pics ...
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RiceCake
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: MAIA]
#2932264 - 07/27/04 11:49 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, one week on and I'm pretty convinced now it's contamination. But what I can't work out is what type it is.
Last Friday I decided to move this cake out of the terrarium into an "isolation unit" - a modified pop bottle - to protect the other 4 cakes. Here is a close up picture I took today:
In the picture you can see the two shapes it forms; initially small pointed structures, that then become blob shaped. You can see a shroom forming on the left top edge of the cake.
I decided to do two tests - sniff test and blueing crush test:
Sniff test - doesn't have that pungent mushroomy small like the terrarium with the good cakes. Instead the smell is what I'd describe as "musty". Something like what an old book smells like. Nothing like the nicer terrarium smell.
Blueing crush test - I chose one of the white blobs and pressed it flat with my finger. 30 minutes later it was still white. The blob compressed almost to nothing - it seemed like it was mostly air.
Conclusion: it's not psilocybe cubensis mycelium.
I didn't notice the strange growth on this cake before because I have been rolling and casing in verm. I steralised the verm in the oven at 200 deg. c. before use, so I don't think this was the cause of the contamination, or all the cakes would be like this one.
I think the cause of the contamination was incomplete steralisation of the substrate. Here is a picture of the jar while it was being colonised before birthing - it's the jar on the right:
You can see white growth appearing from the centre of the jar, which is strange since all my innoculation points were around the edge as per PF tek. I suspect that the centre of the substrate didn't get up to steralisation temperature because I didn't steralise for long enough.
So what is this contam? It's growing, but not very fast (not like cobweb). It's all pure white just as the top picture shows (cobweb is supposed to be more grey white). The blobs look like cotton wool. I have no experience, but to me it doesn't look like cobweb.
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2936999 - 07/28/04 03:52 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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it really does look like myc to me...just wait it out and keep it isolated until you are absolutely sure it isn't a contam. you'll probably get pins soon.
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: RiceCake]
#2939407 - 07/29/04 04:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeap, i agree with TODAY. It does look like mycelium... Give it some time, shortly, you'll know what really is.
MAIA
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RiceCake
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Re: Possible Cobweb? (Pic) [Re: MAIA]
#2941137 - 07/29/04 03:14 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well that's good news to hear. Three different people with much more experience than me saying it's looking OK. I guess I was getting a little too pessimistic.
The shroom in the picture is now 2cm (3/4 inch) long, and there 2 more about 1cm (1/3 inch) long on the opposite side. They look normal with nothing growing on them. There's what looks like a pin forming right in the middle of the "contam" area.
This is the cakes 4th flush. I've been keeping a log of the flush weights and this cake is averaging the same as the others, implying that nothing else is using up the nutrients.
Thanks again guys.
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