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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Ancalagon]
#2940049 - 07/29/04 10:31 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Give them their independence back, so that they can build their own corporations and exploit cunts like you.
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940059 - 07/29/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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you're not going to last here long if you continue to call people cunts.
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940063 - 07/29/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, I wasn't being very clear, I don't blame money literally, it's the capitalist system that I'm against.
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Ancalagon
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940064 - 07/29/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Believe we have a no flaming policy here, buddy... and you desperately need to read up on some non-Marxist economics.
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KingOftheThing
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Third World Jobs Companies in the Untied States have been moving factory assembly line jobs outside of the country in search of cheaper labor. Today most jobs in the U.S.A. are in the tertiary or service sector. Multi-National companies are exploiting workers around the world, paying them in one week much less than most Americans make in an hour. Increasingly this third world factory workforce is being made up of young women. These women as a result of their work face not only monetary problems; their own family often times looks them down upon. Corporations are constantly looking for ways they can produce their products cheaper. They seek to move their manufacturing operations to countries that have no minimum wage, are lax on labor laws and have no unions. Employees at the corporate factories are paid barely what it costs to live in their home country. Many items that we take for granted such as pop, candy or American cigarettes can cost half a days pay. Most workers end up living in slums or company provided dormitories. The dormitories, even though they are built and maintained by the corporations are filthy and over-crowded. Overwhelmingly the workforce in foreign owned factories all over the third world is made up of women. The multi-national companies look to hire women in their teens and twenties who still have energy to work grueling hours. According to an interview with a factory foreman in the article Life on the Global Assembly Line, men are more likely than women to quit a tedious low paying assembly line job or sabotage their machines. It is also acceptable in most third world countries to pay women less than men. The factory worker women are often laid off in their late twenties because of health problems they have acquired from work or because they have seniority and are making too much money. After being laid off, many women turn to prostitution. Women not only face terrible conditions at the factory, there are also problems on the home front. Factory worker women, who are independent from their father or other males, are thought of as sluts and whores. The companies provide classes to for the women to learn how to apply make-up. In more conservative cultures, women who wear make-up appear ?loose? to men. This makes it much harder for worker women to find a husband. The authors of the article Life on the Global Assembly Line refer to the third world countries as pimps and the multi-national corporations as johns. This is because the third world governments try to sell their country?s women to the corporations. The government sends the companies brochures, explaining why their native women workers would best suit the corporation?s needs. The third world governments are running their countries like giant brothels. As long as the United States and other developed countries keep allowing their corporations to move their factories to un-developed countries, workers will be exploited. It is a shame that governments willingly exploit their people for minor monetary gain. How much longer will we tolerate our companies destroying the lives of people overseas for profit? Unfortunately I believe that because of our county?s greed, there won?t be any public outcry or boycotts to stop these multi-national corporations from exploiting people
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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940073 - 07/29/04 10:35 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I jest, I jest.
Honest guv.
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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Ancalagon]
#2940086 - 07/29/04 10:37 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not a Marxist and I don't need to read up on any flawed, biased facts and figures to conclude that the world is unjust.
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Innvertigo
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940090 - 07/29/04 10:38 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Life is unjust, learn how to adapt.
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Ancalagon
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940095 - 07/29/04 10:39 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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You would have made a good Borg.
-------------------- ?When Alexander the Great visted the philosopher Diogenes and asked whether he could do anything for him, Diogenes is said to have replied: 'Yes, stand a little less between me and the sun.' It is what every citizen is entitled to ask of his government.? -Henry Hazlitt in 'Economics in One Lesson'
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KingOftheThing
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940099 - 07/29/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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some have no option to adapt...should people live like slaves so we can live like kings?
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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940103 - 07/29/04 10:40 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Life doesn't have to be.
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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Ancalagon]
#2940106 - 07/29/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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You would have made a good Klingon.
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KingOftheThing
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im not suggesting we give money to poor people just because they are poor...we just can't continue down the same path. where is the line drawn?
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Innvertigo
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940120 - 07/29/04 10:43 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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the sky doesn't have to be blue, but it is. Denying what life is is akin to hiding your head in the sand and demanding it to change.
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rogue_pixie
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The first thing we need to establish here is whether or not people actually care about the wellbeing of their fellow humanbeings and the state in which humanity is in. If they don't - like some here have clearly shown, it's a waste of precious time and energry.
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KingOftheThing
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940129 - 07/29/04 10:45 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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exactly, compassion and an archaic revival are essential to our future on this planet
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Innvertigo
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940132 - 07/29/04 10:46 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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The first thing we need to establish here is whether or not people actually care about the wellbeing of their fellow humanbeings
most people care about their fellow human beings. It's just there are others who want them to actually contribute instead of sitting on their asses with their hands out.
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rogue_pixie
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940133 - 07/29/04 10:46 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Innvertigo said: the sky doesn't have to be blue, but it is. Denying what life is is akin to hiding your head in the sand and demanding it to change.
That's the kind of defeatist, apathetic attitude that will be the death of us all (but I suppose you don't much care).
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: Innvertigo]
#2940140 - 07/29/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Discussion is all part of the process, we need to get those cogs a turnin' first!
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Innvertigo
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Re: fiscal conservatism [Re: rogue_pixie]
#2940143 - 07/29/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's the kind of defeatist, apathetic attitude that will be the death of us all (but I suppose you don't much care).
On the contrary, I adapt to my environment, I'm a realist. That doesn't mean that I treat my fellow man any worse. A please don't pretend that you know what I care about.
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