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OfflineViaggio
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If Bush lied...
    #2938336 - 07/28/04 10:00 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

This has probably been mentioned before, but I've only recently started to frequent PA&L, so if I missed it, pardon.

If Bush lied about his knowledge regarding Iraq's WMD's, is it likely he covered it up by blaming it on the CIA and citing it as a mistake? How many would have to be involved in this conspiracy for it to be true?


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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2938347 - 07/28/04 10:02 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

a whole lot of people, maybe even a few dems....the better question would be, "if it was proven that bush 100% lied about WMDs to get us into war, would u still vote for him"?

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2938395 - 07/28/04 10:13 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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viaggio said:
If Bush lied about his knowledge regarding Iraq's WMD's, is it likely he covered it up by blaming it on the CIA and citing it as a mistake? How many would have to be involved in this conspiracy for it to be true?




So now that many independant agencies are saying Bush didnt lie, its turned into a conspiracy. I guess no matter what Bush does is wrong in some way to you

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Redo]
    #2938416 - 07/28/04 10:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

This was a hypothetical question. I don't actually believe this idea.


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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2938481 - 07/28/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Nor do I, but I was on the side of believing him the entire time, looks like it turned out true. But there still will be people who will never believe anything they dont want to believe.

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2938736 - 07/28/04 11:11 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

many and the few that would speek up about it are in gauntonimo bay secretely arrested with no rights

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2939752 - 07/29/04 09:05 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

With JFK, Elvis and the Roswell aliens aswell I imagine.. :crazy2:

'Speek' out now before its late!  :sniper:

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #2939775 - 07/29/04 09:15 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

im usually not a conspiricy theorist but i would but a lot of money on it that JFK was not killed by lee harvey oswald alone or at all.

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2939828 - 07/29/04 09:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Take a look at the facts:

1) Info used by Powell in his proposal to the UN had been declared false by the useless intelligence agencies prior to the address but was still used to justify the war.

2) Info used by Bush in his S.o.U address had also been declared false by the useless intelligence agencies prior to the address but was still used to justify the war.

3) Powell and Rice claimed in 2002 that Iraq had no active wmd programs and posed no threat to anyone, not even their neighbours let alone Europe or even more preposterously the US. How did the intel change so dramatically (and conveniently) in such a short space of time? Taking into consideration points 1 & 2 are you sure that the intel given to the Bush administration was not spun and edited into a suitable form?

4) An Iraqi exile involved in the WMD programs in the early 90's claimed that Iraq had indeed gotten rid of all their wmd's. He was also asked whether it was possible Saddam might pursue nuclear weapons in the future..as anything is possible he answered yes. It was decided to only make public his response to the nuclear question and not his statement on the non-existence of Iraqi WMD's.

5)Cheney was citing evidence of Iraqi Al-qaeda link over a year after the FBI had dismissed the evidence as untrue.

As far as Im concerned the Bush administration is either breathtakingly inept or a bunch of blatant liars.


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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: Viaggio]
    #2939840 - 07/29/04 09:39 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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If Bush lied about his knowledge regarding Iraq's WMD's, is it likely he covered it up by blaming it on the CIA and citing it as a mistake? How many would have to be involved in this conspiracy for it to be true?




Seems far fetched to me. If members of the US government can kill a President, fake the moon landing and fake intelligence for the Iraq war surely they would be able to plant WMD in Iraq...

Would have avoided a lot of political fall-out...

But then again Bush is the ingenious idiot  :blush:

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #2939933 - 07/29/04 10:04 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

They must be pissing themselve laughing. Plenty of people who ae heavily involved in the intelligence community have accused Bush and Co of lying and fabricating evidence and ignoring facts that dont suit them but nobody really pays much attention. The real conspiracy is the unwitting conspiracy of ignorance that a massive chunk of the general public have been involved in.


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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: GazzBut]
    #2940082 - 07/29/04 10:36 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Give that man a ceegar  :laugh:

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Re: If Bush lied... [Re: GazzBut]
    #2940202 - 07/29/04 11:01 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting points, Gazz...


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