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InvisibleDieCommie

Registered: 12/11/03
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938238 - 07/28/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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This is because of their pandering to the far right christian conservatives. These people are hateful fanatics. They want some decisions of our government to be made strictly on the basis of religion.


I agree. But i think that the christian fanatics are very small minority. Most christians i know (i am not christian) do not think government should be made on the basis of religion. I think that the middle east is a hotbed for this fanaitcal thinking that scares both you and I. These people are hateful fanatics. The growing popularity of Whabbism, and like minded movements, in the middle east is a grave danger to anyone who believes like you and I do...thus I am going to vote for whoever has takes the toughest stance against these true true religious fanatics... I hope that answers your question, im not really sure what your question was...

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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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Registered: 11/17/02
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: DieCommie]
    #2938254 - 07/28/04 09:43 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i guess i didnt really ask a question :lol: but i think religous fanatics in this country are pretty damn scary...the ones in the middle east scare me too...problem is, sadam was a secularist, osama bin laden hated him...

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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938278 - 07/28/04 09:50 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I agree with the war on a different premise.... To make a long argument short i agree with the war because Iraq broke their peace treaty with the U.S..

Lets hope whoever comes in power will stop the religious fanatics here and in the middle east.

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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: DieCommie]
    #2938290 - 07/28/04 09:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

did you know israel also violate international treaties?? i think the iraq war was fought for all the wrong reasons. there are countries which pose a much larger threat to us than iraq.

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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: DieCommie]
    #2938331 - 07/28/04 09:59 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

kerry has vowed to keep religion out of politics, so that takes care of fanatics over here... i think he will be tough on the freaks in the middle east too...time will tell, i believe kerry will win and turn this country around.. if he doesnt i will vote him out in 2008...i may lean to the left but i will not vote strictly along party lines, shit carter was a screw up... if kerry botches the economy, does not follow through with his social issue promises or screws up with the terrorists im looking for a new candidate. however right now im optimistic about where we will go under kerry.

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InvisibleEvolving
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Registered: 10/01/02
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938352 - 07/28/04 10:03 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
Number Of Unemployed Americans:

1929 2.6 million
1933 15 million
1935 11 million
1937 8.3 million
1938 10.5 million
1939 9.2 million
1940 8 million



Wow, what a coincidence, WWII officially started in 1939 with the invasion of Poland. On November 4 of the same year President Roosevelt amended the 1937 Neutrality Act, allowing Britain and France to purchase arms on a "cash and carry" basis and also in the same year unemployment starts to drop.

In 1940 unemployment (according to your figures) was still at 8 million over 300% of the 2.6 million unemployed in 1929. So the new deal ended the Great Depression?

How about asset prices? Did they they reach pre-depression levels because of the New Deal?


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938374 - 07/28/04 10:09 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I dont care about international treaties....
I dont know what Israel has to do with this...but if we had war with them and beat them then they violated our treaty..i would support invading them... As far as i know Israel hasnt violated any treaty with us.

Dont you think that if one member of a peace treaty violates it then a state of war should be declared? If the issue in question isnt important enough to go back to war...then was it really important enough to put in the peace treaty?

I agree that there are countries that pose a big threat to the US. This is why i think responding to Iraq breaking the treaty with a strong show of force is important...the big mistake was we didnt do it in 98 like we should have, and we claimed the war was over WMD...If i were the president, i would have stated we were going to war because Iraq violated its treaty with us (not some UN resolution, UN resolutions are garbage).

Here is a philosophical question that kind of pertains to the subject at hand....If we do the right thing for the wrong reasons is it wrong? Of course this assumes that taking out Saddam was "the right thing" which i know most people dont believe.

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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938392 - 07/28/04 10:12 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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i may lean to the left but i will not vote strictly along party lines, shit carter was a screw up


It may surprise you but i also feel i lean to the left, and carter was a screw up....Last elecion in fact i voted for Gore
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however right now im optimistic about where we will go under kerry.


i hope your right cause im pretty sure hes gonna win. Im still gonna vote for bush though, and after kerry wins i will keep an open mind and see what he does before i pass judgment.

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AhronZombi

Registered: 04/06/04
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938750 - 07/28/04 11:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

your so much like me. ill never let them take my guns

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AhronZombi

Registered: 04/06/04
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2938773 - 07/28/04 11:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

while i agree the current republicans descust me and i will vote kerry. i have to say it isnt just republicans. the libs are working to take our rights away and create a theocracy just as much. i look at it as one party not too. one takes your constittion that protects you with laws the others take your guns that protect you from phisical force the government may use on you

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InvisibleAhronZombi
AhronZombi

Registered: 04/06/04
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2938785 - 07/28/04 11:20 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

i agree less government is better. something republicans used to support

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AhronZombi

Registered: 04/06/04
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Re: Question for Bush Voters?? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2938797 - 07/28/04 11:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

thats good to know. if i was in a state like cali id vote libritarian too b/c votes really dont count in desided states like that

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