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are my shrooms still good?
    #2935319 - 07/28/04 10:22 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

hello im not a native speaker ,so excuse my english

i wanted to preserve some shrooms, so first i tried to dry them for 30 hrs but they did not dried completely so i mixed them with honey and put them in the fridge, i also poured some water disinfectant with the honey. that was 6 days ago, today i opened the shrooms and they have and they smell fishy like fermented stuff, i plan to eat the honey *(which is black now) on 2 days, the honey still tastes normal. my question is, is there any way to know if its safe to eat the honey? thnx


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2935340 - 07/28/04 10:42 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not sure if those would be good or not, my guess would be they are ok, because the honey would block any air from the shrooms. However, black honey and a fishy smell doesn't sound good. May just be from spores, with the normal shroom smell stronger because they were in a small container, but I'm no expert. Wait around for a reply from a few of the other guys here before you take anything. Good luck!


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2935662 - 07/28/04 05:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think it was the best idea to put anything extra in the honey. . .can you describe what this 'water disinfectant' was?  Was it liquid?  If it was liquid, how much was added relative to the amount of honey?
Pure honey will prevent just about anything from growing due to its osmolarity.  . .not many organisms can maintain a water balance.  If you dilute honey much at all, it can spoil very quickly.  This can happen if you put fresh fruits in honey;  the honey will suck the water from the fruits and become more dilute and possibly spoil.  It's all a question of how much the honey is diluted. 
The fact that the honey is black is of concern. . .you said it tastes fine, but smells fishy?  That would concern me, as fermenty smells usually mean *fermentation*!!  :wink: 
It could be either that the disinfectant you added oxidized the mushroom compounds, giving a darker solution than normal, or there are bacteria in there producing the same effect.  Usually when you add mushrooms to honey there is not much color change [very slight change at most, IME].  I'd be cautious with the stuff, and assume it's a bacterial soup.  Next time try chopping/grinding mostly dried/very dry shrooms directly into pure honey.  This can keep in the freezer for very, very long periods of time.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: Suntzu]
    #2935888 - 07/28/04 07:29 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

the disinfectant is a comercial stuff, i dunno what it contais but i only added 2 drops. The honey was about 1.5 kg, a guy told me that the black color was caused by the pscylocibin that dissolved with the honey what do u think??


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2936204 - 07/28/04 09:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I suppose it is possible.  Two drops doesn't sound like enough to dilute the honey, but it's the smell that is the suspicious part.  I've made honey quite a few times, and have even tried to make it dark by grinding up fresh fruits. . .the best I could get was a slight green color.  I've heard of other people getting it darker, though. 
I still think you should be a little concerned about the smell.  Maybe not to the point of throwing it away. . .hell, I don't know!  :wink: 

Let's wait for some other opinions.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2936981 - 07/29/04 12:48 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

a fishy smell usually indicates rotting (my garbage disposal and garbage bag smell fishy). i wouldn't eat it if it smelled like fish.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: TODAY]
    #2937366 - 07/29/04 02:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

a friend of mine just took 3 tablespoons of the mixture as a test
oh another thing, do u know how long will it take for the honey to absorb the psilocybin ?


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2941032 - 07/29/04 11:40 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i've never messed around w/ honey.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2969718 - 08/06/04 05:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guy, I wouldn't eat those shrooms if I were you. Like what was already said, usually if something smells fishy you don't mess with it or you could get into trouble.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2974621 - 08/07/04 12:05 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Please do not eat the stuff - smells of rotting indicate just that.

Would you eat rotting fruit from a bin? No, don't eat the honey then - you could make yourself very ill indeed or worse.


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Re: are my shrooms still good? [Re: luiszertuche]
    #2979809 - 08/09/04 08:24 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yay food poisoning!

Believe me, Any sort of food poisioning will make your day suck.

Dont fuck with it, I would never eat some black shit I found in a jar that smells like fish, no matter what the contents were called.


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