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 mntlfngrs
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#2932824 - 07/27/04 01:56 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Name me a people who has not ever kept slaves.
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Ancalagon
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Women.
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Roman women kept slaves. Lots of 'em.
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The Australian Aborigines? The native indians? the eskimos? The lesser spotted um bongo tribe?...Im just guessing!
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Left wing anarchists?
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mntlfngrs
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Women.
You obviously have not met my wife!
Diodorus of Sicily's World History places the Amazons at the Thermodon River and endows one of them, known as the Daughter of Ares, with some distasteful traits. Not content with subduing her neighbors and making almost constant - if successful - war, she established laws which turned the tribe's men into humiliated slaves. Worse, any male children had their arms and legs mutilated so they would be unfit for battle... as well as rebellion.
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Re: Slavery [Re: GazzBut]
#2932895 - 07/27/04 02:21 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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> The native indians?
Depends... not all native indians kept slaves, but during certain periods, some did... (I don't know that I can find sources for this anymore, but from what I remember, the practice was introduced by indians which came up from central/south america... they also introduced cannibalism into the native american indian culture for a short period of time.)
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Re: Slavery [Re: GazzBut]
#2932899 - 07/27/04 02:22 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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GazzBut said:
The Australian Aborigines? The native indians? the eskimos? The lesser spotted um bongo tribe?...Im just guessing!
It was not uncommon for tribal peoples to enslave rival tribesmen and women. Native americans did.
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Did the aborigines or the eskimos keep slaves though? Where are you going with this or is it just idle curiosity?!
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Depends what you mean by "slavery" too. Certain native american tribes taking war captives as slaves isn't quite the same thing as shipping them over from Africa to use as cheap labour to boost a few rich peoples profits.
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Re: Slavery [Re: Xlea321]
#2932998 - 07/27/04 02:39 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alex123 said:
Depends what you mean by "slavery" too. Certain native american tribes taking war captives as slaves isn't quite the same thing as shipping them over from Africa to use as cheap labour to boost a few rich peoples profits.
I'm sure that made the domestic slaves feel MUCH better.
Well, my slavemaster whipped me to within an inch of my life today but hey.... at least I'm from here to begin with!
Holy crap. What a moronic statement that was PinochhiAl.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Slavery [Re: Xlea321]
#2933009 - 07/27/04 02:40 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Certain native american tribes taking war captives as slaves isn't quite the same thing as shipping them over from Africa to use as cheap labour to boost a few rich peoples profits.
The only difference I see between the two is the distances involved?
War captives used as cheap labour for the profit of the winning tribe...
Captives used as cheap labour for the profit of the rich plantations...
Slavery is slavery... I don't think you can make slavery 'good' just by changing the circumstances...
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I think Alex is using this as a starting point to justify slavery to the state.
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Re: Slavery [Re: Evolving]
#2933043 - 07/27/04 02:46 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Evolving said:
I think Alex is using this as a starting point to justify slavery to the state.
I'm sure he'd make a good little toadie.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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only one? Fine
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tibetan buddhists
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mntlfngrs
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Re: Slavery [Re: GazzBut]
#2933256 - 07/27/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did the aborigines or the eskimos keep slaves though? Where are you going with this or is it just idle curiosity?!
Mostly curiosity but I hate it that many people act like white Americans were the only people to ever have slaves. If we have to pay reporations should they then pay for the slaves that thier people probably had? Should Islam pay for the Black slaves that they kept?
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Edited by mntlfngrs (07/27/04 03:42 PM)
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luvdemshrooms
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No no no. It's only Americans that should pay.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Slavery [Re: Vvellum]
#2933284 - 07/27/04 03:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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bi0 said:
tibetan buddhists
I was excluding religions but I'm sure we could point plenty of fingers their too.
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Re: Slavery [Re: GazzBut]
#2933326 - 07/27/04 03:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry, some American Indian tribes kept slaves that they bought from the white man, and most of them kept slaves taken during war with other tribes.
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I think current slavery is a much more pressing issue. There are millions of slaves alive right now in places like West Africa, Pakistan, Sudan, Haiti, and India. What can be done about it? I dont know. I do know however that finger pointing about slavery of the past diverts needed attention from slavery of the present.
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Anarchists.
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Lesbian Alzheimers Patients.
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Narcoleptics!
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I don't believe slavs had slaves (with the exception of uncle Tom's)
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Edited by Innvertigo (07/28/04 02:17 PM)
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quakers?
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Re: Slavery [Re: BleaK]
#2936915 - 07/28/04 03:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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isn't that more of a religion/way of life?
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isn't that more of a religion/way of life?
yea, but i dunno if that makes it "less" of a group of people.
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Re: Slavery [Re: BleaK]
#2937161 - 07/28/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I knew there would be a fair number of groups that had not in recent history at least , made use of slaves. But I imageine if you went back far enough that most people have slave ownership somewhere in there ancestory. So how about we all take $5 and pass it to the left and call it even?
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So how about we all take $5 and pass it to the left and call it even?
Sorry but the left takes way too much now.
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mntlfngrs
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So how about we all take $5 and pass it to the left and call it even?
Sorry but the left takes way too much now.
har,har har
True, And receiving from the right isn't likely either.
Gee, maybe we should STFU about this and go home.
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The !Kung(otherwise known as the Bushmen) from southern Africa have not, to my knowledge, ever owned slaves.
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We should pitch everything and go live in the bush then. Well, shave the bush then live in it.
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