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Phred
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Norway's work ethic.
#2929591 - 07/26/04 05:56 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Talk about coincidence. I'm just finishing up the final touches on a beach erosion control project for one of the properties here in Cabarete. It happens to be on a stretch of the beach where a lot of kite boarders congregate to launch and just hang around shooting the shit. I've been talking to a group of Norwegian kiters quite a lot in the last month and a half -- mainly because the Norwegian women kiters are goddesses -- and I jokingly asked them how it was that they got so much time off work. What they told me dovetailed pretty much exactly with what the article I link below has to say.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001988054_norway25.html
As a side note, Oslo is the most expensive city in the world to live in, beating out New York and Tokyo -- but only if you take rent out of the equation.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2929628 - 07/26/04 06:05 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Socialism decreasing incentive? Impossible.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2929637 - 07/26/04 06:07 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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These welfare systems have changed attitudes. Gradually, you lean more and more on the government rather than on yourself.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2929643 - 07/26/04 06:09 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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neat may not last long, but neat
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2930561 - 07/26/04 10:55 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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norway here I come?
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2930696 - 07/26/04 11:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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half the year off? sign me up.
better than spending oil money on rich dunces who somehow become president and then believes that the policy of bombing everyone who might attack you is a brilliant original theory that should be fully adopted for the rest of U.S. history.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Tao]
#2931622 - 07/27/04 07:24 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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EH?
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2931689 - 07/27/04 08:06 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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On an average day, about 25 percent of Norway's workers are absent from work, either because they have called in sick, are undergoing physical rehabilitation or are on long-term disability. The rate is especially high among government employees, who account for half the work force.
Am I reading this right? Half of the work force is employed by the government? That's insane.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Tao]
#2931699 - 07/27/04 08:13 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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TaoTeChing said: half the year off? sign me up.
better than spending oil money on rich dunces who somehow become president and then believes that the policy of bombing everyone who might attack you is a brilliant original theory that should be fully adopted for the rest of U.S. history.
Good for you! You managed an angle to take a jab at Bush from an article about Norway's workers. Your work ethic is obviously not lacking.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: afoaf]
#2932004 - 07/27/04 09:59 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Isn't it hard work finding fault? (Set, awaiting spike)
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JesusChrist
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HagbardCeline said: Am I reading this right? Half of the work force is employed by the government? That's insane.
That is insane. It is also a recipe for disaster when the oil runs out. What the hell though, let the good times roll. I thought it was a very interesting article.
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Good for you! You managed an angle to take a jab at Bush from an article about Norway's workers. Your work ethic is obviously not lacking.
Thank you! I'll be here all week!
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2934087 - 07/27/04 07:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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"There has been a brutalization of the work force," said Finn Erik Thoresen, vice president for the Confederation of Trade Unions. "Most of the people away from work at the moment are people on disability leave. That is a result of the working life. People are working and working until they are on the edge."
Leave it to the "labor" unions to spin it so nicely.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: z@z.com]
#2935394 - 07/28/04 02:18 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The last year I've only been working for a month or so... And the rest of the time, I've been browsing the Shroomery and scratching my balls.
But I'm not an average Norwegian..
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The average Norwegian doesn't scratch his balls?
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Evolving]
#2936227 - 07/28/04 12:34 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Evolving: Yes they do scratch their balls.. but they have a job as well
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2937325 - 07/28/04 05:30 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Norway is a very oppressed country.
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Phred
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2937842 - 07/28/04 07:39 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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According to their union spokesmen.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Phred]
#2937956 - 07/28/04 08:07 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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How hard are people/businesses trying to get out of Norway?
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2939444 - 07/29/04 05:06 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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oppressed? trying to get out of norway? on what have you based this on? I will not say im oppressed in any way. I love livin in this country, so does most people. I am unemployed but I recive about 2000 us dollars from the gov each month because i worked so and so much before i quit my work, why the hell would I feel oppressed?
it is however a problem that half the workstock is employed from the goverment .
Norway still have huge off shore oil fields that havent even been started on more north (just like russia), norway are also putting money into a fund , the fund is around 130 billions US dollars today and rising (a little faster for everytime us goes to war in the middle east) - this is money thats gonna help norway in a phase when oil runs out.
Most people loves norway, people bitch about alot of thing here, but we all know we have some of the worlds best health care, schools , justice system and so on. Yes things like, legalize cannabis, could make norway even better. a little less tax (norway is a tax country unlike any other country i have heard of) would be nice too
other than that, i say most people are really anything but oppressed and wants to leave this country.
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Re: Norway's work ethic. [Re: shamantra]
#2939452 - 07/29/04 05:10 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you need to learn how to notice sarcasm.
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