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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Winning the War on Drugs
    #2923736 - 07/24/04 04:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Source: Daily News, The (Bogalusa, LA)
Contact: pub@edailynews.info
Copyright: 2004 The Daily News
Website: http://www.edailynews.info/
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/1325
Author: Danny Hanemann
Note: Danny Hanemann is the photographer and a regular columnist for The
Daily News.



WINNING THE WAR ON DRUGS

Seems to me...

In case anybody hasn't noticed yet, we're losing the war on drugs. Despite
every governmental effort, the problem is only getting worse. The policies
of the last eight administrations have relied on three basic strategies to
create a drug-free America: interdiction, education, and incarceration. All
told, these efforts cost the U.S. taxpayer over $400 billion per year.

Consider interdiction. Drug production constitutes the primary source of
exports for several South American countries. Arguably, the economies of
both Colombia and Bolivia would collapse without the drug trade. No
economic incentive the U.S. can offer is going to persuade these nations to
abandon production. In the Middle East the Afghan people have already
resumed the planting of poppies, even as American forces occupy the country.

According to U.S. government reports, the drug enforcement agencies have
never been able to interdict more than one percent of the total worldwide
crop. Our borders are so porous that we can't stop people from entering
illegally; much less countermand the influx of drugs. After completing a
major study, the U.S. General Accounting Office concluded that no amount of
money would improve interdiction of drugs at our borders. Interdiction has
proven to be a costly and dismal failure.

Regarding education, there is no substantive evidence that anti-drug
education programs work on a permanent basis. Programs such as D.A.R.E. or
Partnership for a Drug Free America offer limited but temporary diversion
but, as youngsters grow older, peer pressure and the lure of quick money
supplant the lessons they attempt to teach. Nancy Reagan's 'Just Say No'
crusade had as much chance of success as programs advocating sexual
abstinence. One only needs to look at the rising rate of drug use to
dismiss the efficacy of these and like programs.

What about incarceration? According to a 2001 report by the New York State
Division of Criminal Justice Services and the Department of Correctional
Services, the United States leads the world in locking up its citizens.

U.S.A....2,078,570

China....1,549,000

Russia...846,967

India.....313,635

Violent crime accounts for 49% of inmates sentenced. Property crime
accounts for 19%. Drugs account for 20 %. Public disorder accounts for 11
%. No doubt, many, if not most of the violence and property crimes may be
also be attributed to the illegal drug trade. Watch the local news
broadcasts out of New Orleans and that fact will quickly become apparent to
even the casual observer.

Mandatory sentencing, longer sentences and the construction of new prisons
have resulted in a slight drop in the crime rate but every time a dealer is
removed from the street, another quickly replaces him.

A parallel can be drawn with the 'Noble Experiment' of the prohibition era.
The outlawing of alcohol created an organized crime syndicate of national
proportions and, overnight, made criminals of hundreds of thousands of
otherwise law-abiding citizens.

How deadly is the substance abuse epidemic? Here are some interesting
statistics from the National Institute on Drug Abuse regarding the death
rate attributable to various drugs in an average year.

Tobacco kills about 390,000.

Alcohol kills about 80,000.

Second hand smoke kills about 50,000.

Cocaine kills about 2,200.

Heroin kills about 2,000.

Aspirin kills about 2,000.

Marijuana kills 0. There has never beer a recorded death due to marijuana
at any time in U.S. history.

All illegal drugs combined kill about 4,500 people per year, or about one
percent of the number killed by alcohol and tobacco. Tobacco kills more
people each year than all of the people killed by all of the illegal drugs
in the last century.

So what's the solution? Legalization. By legalizing drugs the government
can control the distribution and standardize dosages, thus preventing
overdose deaths. The $400 billion now wasted on the war on drugs would
easily fund clinics to distribute these drugs and to offer withdrawal
programs for those who wish to break their habit.

Additionally, by eliminating the profit motive from the illegal sale of
drugs, street crimes, including burglary, robbery and murder would plummet.
Addicts would not have to steal to supply their habits and drug lord turf
wars would end, just as they ended at the repeal of prohibition. Prison
populations would also decline as non-violent offenders are released.

Currently, it is easier for a teenager to buy marijuana than to buy beer or
tobacco. By selling marijuana through drug stores, teenagers would lose
access to the drug and high taxes on the product would add to government
coffers instead of draining them.

Finally, the Middle Eastern and South American nations, and the terrorist
groups they fund would lose a vital source of income. Production of the
attendant crops would shift to the American farmer and benefit that segment
of the economy.

Unfortunately there's not a single politician on the 'Hill' with the guts
to propose such legislation, so the war will go on and we will continue to
lose.

'We have met the enemy and he is us.'

Pogo


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2924639 - 07/24/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice article, all they need to do is legalize pot and all those other hard drug deaths would go down as well.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Redo]
    #2924760 - 07/25/04 12:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Redo, this is the first time we've agreed on something.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2925000 - 07/25/04 02:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Great article! Too bad it makes too much sense. :frown:


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2925065 - 07/25/04 02:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

itll be another 30 years before we get some solid foundation for legalization, then it may be longer until its widely accepted. By then well all be in jail for 50 years on > 1 gram charges for marijuana.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Redo]
    #2925076 - 07/25/04 03:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I agree completely.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: ReeferRoller]
    #2927137 - 07/25/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yepp, and I too agree.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2941132 - 07/29/04 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

All
told, these efforts cost the U.S. taxpayer over $400 billion per year.





ummm... I'm pretty sure the real number is $40 billion

of course, a penny is too much, but just for the sake of accuracy...


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2954349 - 08/02/04 01:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i dunno according to the DEA website the war on drugs is a smashing success. in fact, according to the DEA only 5% of americans use drugs. and the DEA wouldnt put blatant lies on their own fact sheet, would they? right?

Quote:

Fact 1: We have made significant progress in fighting drug use and drug trafficking in America. Now is not the time to abandon our efforts.

The Legalization Lobby claims that the fight against drugs cannot be won. However, overall drug use is down by more than a third in the last twenty years, while cocaine use has dropped by an astounding 70 percent. Ninety-five percent of Americans do not use drugs. This is success by any standards.




http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/index.html


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: NNY]
    #2954944 - 08/02/04 04:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

depends on what your definition of a drug is... according to my DARE officer, caffiene and nicotine are drugs... guess we better give him that fact sheet and set him straight...


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #2957789 - 08/02/04 09:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i dont really think it depends on any definition of what a drug is, that number is completely impossible.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: NNY]
    #2957872 - 08/02/04 10:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think the large drop in cocaine use has little to do with law enforcement and more to do with the fact that there was a huge boom in the coke use in the late 70's/early 80's followed by backlash once people learned what coke use could do.

95% of Americans not use drugs?...... That just doesn't seem possible.


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Twirling]
    #2957960 - 08/02/04 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


"here were an estimated 2.6 million new marijuana users in 2001. This number is similar to the numbers of new users each year since 1995, but above the number in 1990 (1.6 million). In 2002, over 14 million Americans age 12 and older used marijuana at least once in the month prior to being surveyed, and 12.2 percent of past year marijuana users used marijuana on 300 or more days in the past 12 months. This translates into 3.1 million people using marijuana on a daily or almost daily basis over a 12-month period(1)."
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/marijuana.html
14 million people in 2002 used marijuana in the past month to being surveyed, and there are approximately 290 million people in the US (http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html )

14/ 290 = 04.8% of Americans had used marijuana

So assuming then there are a bit more Americans who use other illegal drugs than marijuana, the DEA statistic isn't far off, if by drugs they only mean illicit drugs

Though who knows the accuracy of that statistic, millions of more Americans may smoke but not want to admit it because of its illegality


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Ravus]
    #2957966 - 08/02/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Though my statistic may be slightly flawed, because it is assuming that no Americans 12 and under smoked marijuana, which is obviously false, but it is probably a small number in the scheme of the total population to marijuana smokers, as most regular smokers are above 12 years old to my knowledge


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: Ravus]
    #2960232 - 08/03/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

also dude not everyone took the test... mainly the test relied on grades 6-12... probably some college surveys, probabl some job surveys.. just guestimating i would add another 4.8 percent just to marijuana smokers


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Re: Winning the War on Drugs [Re: acoostick]
    #2960292 - 08/03/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

also I am proud to say I belong to a METH STATE

"Meth production is soaring in Tennessee, and the DEA predicts that trend will continue.

Even today, Tennessee is leading the region in meth production. The Volunteer State accounts for 75% of all the meth seizures in the Southeast.

The labs that are discovered in Tennessee are characterized as small and unsophisticated, but, these labs can be deadly for police because the owners are often armed and determined to defend them with violence if necessary."


-taken from News Channel 5 inconjunction with the DEA

back in the day all the white-trash here drank moonshine, now a days they all make meth, haha there is always some place exploding because all of the white trash are stupid and dont know shit about chemicals....

also check this! in every "country" county in Tennessee the CO-OPs and garden-type stores keep all meth products in one section for convenience... BAHAHAHAHAha


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