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Bulk Experiment idea
    #2922130 - 07/23/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Me and my friend just harvested teh first flush of a mushroom compost bin, total volume about 5 gal of substrate. Were going for one more flush then i would liek to have some fun. right now i have no cultures going so im trying to McGyver a grow. I was thinking instead of doing the nomal outdoor tek where you break up spent caings why not break up the casing into say 2-3x more substrate then allow that to colonize, then do that one more time only around 3-4:1 spawn ratio then fruit that. sound cool?


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2922158 - 07/23/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It has been done before....

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why not break up the casing into say 2-3x more substrate then allow that to colonize, then do that one more time only around 3-4:1 spawn ratio then fruit that.




This is commonly referred to as "super-spawning"...


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: ATWAR]
    #2922507 - 07/24/04 01:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

using a casing as spawn or using a low spawn ratio? I will use a low ratio because there arent as many spawn points as with grain per volume.


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2922774 - 07/24/04 03:55 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes. Spent casings have been used as spawn with success by both myself and other users.

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mushroom compost bin, total volume about 5 gal of substrate.

why not break up the casing into say 2-3x more substrate then allow that to colonize, then do that one more time only around 3-4:1 spawn ratio then fruit that.




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I will use a low ratio because there arent as many spawn points as with grain per volume.




This leads me to believe your going to use a higher spawn ratio to make up for the lack of inoculation points as you see it.

Using substrate to spawn even more substrate is typically called "super-spawning" and works much better than grain spawn. Using substrate to spawn more typically does not require the elevated spawn ratios compared to grain. Because the mycelium is already acclimated with the nutrient source, it will tear through it faster than when you use grain as your primary spawn source. This is all provided you break it up good, and do not over-incubate between spawnings. It is best to use it early as the more it colonizes, the harder it will be to break up...

You will be fine. I would use a high spawn to substrate ratio intially though since you are using a flushed casing...


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: ATWAR]
    #2923669 - 07/24/04 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

high as in low ratio # right? thats what i was geting at with the initial 3:1 then do a 4:1 or mabey higher.


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2923812 - 07/24/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes...


It is one of those half full/half empty kind of things. It all depends on from which perspective you look at it. A numerically lower ratio is what I meant. I commonly make this mistake, saying higher ratio when spawn is increased when in actuality the ratio is lowered numerically...

I would not be concerned unless ratios approached 1:10 spawn to substrate or higher. I have used even higher ratios than this, it just takes a bit longer to colonize...


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2934513 - 07/27/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you should make your own tek on it or link me if there is one


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Re: Bulk Experiment idea [Re: Philanthropist]
    #2934859 - 07/28/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Its not a tek, more of an idea.


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