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cool experiment for the modern shamen
    #2920774 - 07/23/04 04:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i have once read that freebase b-carbolines (harmine, harmaline, thh..) should glow when under a blacklight (UV).
so i bought my lamp (380nm wave length) and got very disappointed after i took a bit of caapi extract and it didn't glow.
this is a mere repetition of someone's experiment at ayahuasca.com.

equipment:
1 UV light
vineagar (plenty)
strong spoon
few plates, amber or null in collor.
>samples to test of various plants, from your marlboro to your garden plants. with dried plants the results are more visible.

pour a few drops of vineagar, drop a small ammount of the plant matter you want to test (powdered is not a bad idea, but not really necessary sometimes, crushing is needed for fresh plant matter), put a small sample of the plant on the vineagar (now turn off your regular lights and on the UV), pick your strong spoon (don't bend it!), mash the material around with the vineagar and watch the magic happen!
certain substances (b-carbolines for a good example) glow really STRONG, just like those silly glowsticks liquid.
the funniest of all was when i chewed some caapi, invited my brother in, told him to close the door and shown him my cheschire cat smile... then i opened my whole glowing mouth and the bastard ran away thinking i was either a most evoluted shaman or playing with radioactives. LOL...
here goes a few things i've tested and the result.

caapi extract: yellowish green/cyan, strong;
caapi, chewed: golden glow, greenish afterwards, medium (only saliva!);
my mouth after chewing caapi: green/yellow, strong;
yopo snuff: green, strong;
virola snuff (no lime): negative (or too dull);
argyreia nervosa leaf, fresh: neg;
salvia leaf, fresh: neg;
passiflora leaf, fresh: neg;
passiflora (edulis i believe) old bark, fresh: neg;
t. terschekii, dried: dark green, medium/dull;
t. peruvianus, dried: dark green, medium/dull;
tobacco (regular lucky strikes): green/cyan, strong;
ilex paraguariensis (yerba mate): neg;
amanita muscaria (oven dried years ago): yellow, strong;

i believe other alkaloids might show up and others hide as we vary the pH of our solution, what is for sure is that b-carbolines will shine as salts, not as freebases (like i read somewhere).
also, it's not because it glows that it's safe to consume.
have fun everybody!


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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen *DELETED* [Re: felixhigh]
    #2921109 - 07/23/04 05:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen [Re: poke smot!]
    #2921678 - 07/23/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I think beta carbolines glow as a freebase, you might have just destroyed them because as pH rises things like Harmaline get destroyed. They aren't stable as freebases.




by using an acid i am lowering the pH, gentleman. :wink:
why do you say the freebases are not stable? i believe this is how they come in the plant matter. they won't last if you shred your vine/rue and let it all to oxide...

indeed, by the end of the experiment my hands were all colored. =D

a post script: UV exposure can be harmful in the long run.


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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen [Re: poke smot!]
    #2922319 - 07/24/04 12:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

haha thats fuckin crazy. cool pic!


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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen [Re: felixhigh]
    #2922815 - 07/24/04 04:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

thats neat. what type of uv? guessing just those black lights high in uva? BL type?


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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen [Re: kadakuda]
    #2922854 - 07/24/04 04:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

UV-A, 380nm.


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Re: cool experiment for the modern shamen [Re: felixhigh]
    #2924977 - 07/25/04 02:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

SEX-AlL_ENT-EH~~~


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