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Former professor: Bush not qualified for President
    #2917953 - 07/22/04 09:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Bush?s former professor says he?s not qualified to be president

July 13, 2004

TOKYO - A former teacher of U.S. President George Bush on Friday questioned his qualifications as president in an address to foreign reporters in Japan.
Speaking at the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan in Tokyo, City University of New York prof. Yoshihiro Tsurumi said, "I always remember two groups of students. One is the really good students, not only intelligent, but with leadership qualities, courage. The other is the total opposite, unfortunately to which George belonged."

"President Bush can no longer be reelected on the basis of his - quote unquote - leadership," Tsurumi, who was Bush?s professor at Harvard Business School, told his audience in reference to November?s presidential election in the United States.

He recalled a conversation with Bush when he met him soon after he arrived at Harvard.

"I asked him, ?What have you been doing ? How about Vietnam ?? and he said, ?Well, I?ve been in the National Guard in Texas.? I said, ?How did you get that ? There?s a 10-year waiting list.? And he said, ?Well, my dad has connections."?

Tsurumi is a frequent commentator for U.S. news programs, and has been outspoken in his criticism of both Bush and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.

"In my class, he (Bush) declared that ?people are poor because they are lazy.? He was opposed to labor unions, social security, environmental protection, Medicare and public schools. To him, Franklin D Roosevelt?s New Deal was ?socialism,"? Tsurumi said. (Kyodo News)

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2917988 - 07/22/04 09:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard this guy speak on Janeanne Garafolo's show twice now - really some interesting and eye-opening stuff.


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918017 - 07/22/04 09:46 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

So in other words that guys knows whats best and Bush only thinks he knows whats best?

Exactly what is it about him that leads you to believe he isn't a good leader?


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918022 - 07/22/04 09:46 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Bush is a rass clat, did he really have to be a president for just this term for us to realize this?

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2918037 - 07/22/04 09:48 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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HagbardCeline said:
So in other words that guys knows whats best and Bush only thinks he knows whats best?

Exactly what is it about him that leads you to believe he isn't a good leader?




Bush is was good at keeping his approval rating high not because he is a leader, but because he is a misleader.

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: MAGnum]
    #2918070 - 07/22/04 09:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I forgot to say why. He stole the first election, mislead us about Iraqu, said he advocates a high achievement education system yet allowed his war to fuck up our school's budgets. That's just the start of it, do I need to go on? Oh yeah, he skipped out on war for his contry and somehow ended up leading the executive branch of government. THen when he is president, he sends all these other fellow human beings to war. He's a thilthy RASS CLAT!

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918195 - 07/22/04 10:15 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Zahid said:

"In my class, he (Bush) declared that ?people are poor because they are lazy.? He was opposed to labor unions, social security, environmental protection, Medicare and public schools. To him, Franklin D Roosevelt?s New Deal was ?socialism,"? Tsurumi said. (Kyodo News)





Why does the article paint Bush in such a positive light?


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: d33p]
    #2918218 - 07/22/04 10:18 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

so you believe people are poor because theyre lazy, labor unions are horrible, there should be no environmental protection, and also hate the concept of having public schools?

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: MAGnum]
    #2918280 - 07/22/04 10:25 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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MAGnum said:
I forgot to say why. He stole the first election, mislead us about Iraqu, said he advocates a high achievement education system yet allowed his war to fuck up our school's budgets. That's just the start of it, do I need to go on? Oh yeah, he skipped out on war for his contry and somehow ended up leading the executive branch of government. THen when he is president, he sends all these other fellow human beings to war. He's a thilthy RASS CLAT!




can you prove any one of those statements?

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: MAGnum]
    #2918302 - 07/22/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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I forgot to say why. He stole the first election,



He won the election with the rules in place at the time.

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mislead us about Iraqu,



He didn't mislead me, but apparently quite a few others were misled.

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said he advocates a high achievement education system yet allowed his war to fuck up our school's budgets.



More $ does not equal a better education, one need only look at expenditures of private schools vs. public schools to realize this. The problems are of a systemic nature, not of funding. The federal government has no business in education, it should be a local issue not under any central authority. I also think it is unfair that those who do not have children or those who are not getting an education should be forced to pay for the education of others. BTW, I am a parent of two school age children.

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That's just the start of it, do I need to go on?



No, please don't.


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2918306 - 07/22/04 10:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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HagbardCeline said:
So in other words that guys knows whats best and Bush only thinks he knows whats best?

Exactly what is it about him that leads you to believe he isn't a good leader?




He isn't a good leader because he mislead the country into a war that didn't need to be fought. Because of this, Bush does not know what's best - he thinks he knows what's best for the world, let alone the American people. Benighted to say the least!


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918315 - 07/22/04 10:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Zahid said:

He isn't a good leader because he mislead the country into a war that didn't need to be fought.






I dont see him misleading anybody, maybe you should watch the news headlines abot the 9/11 report

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he thinks he knows what's best for the world, let alone the American people.





Sounds like what presidents are sopposed to believe

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: vampirism]
    #2918351 - 07/22/04 10:33 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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so you believe people are poor because theyre lazy some , labor unions are horrible sometimes , there should be no environmental protection too much promotes foriegn labor and slows the capitalist market , and also hate the concept of having public schools? they have failed, what can i say?




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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Redo]
    #2918417 - 07/22/04 10:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I dont see him misleading anybody, maybe you should watch the news headlines abot the 9/11 report

What the hell does Iraq have to do with 9/11?


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918432 - 07/22/04 10:45 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Zahid said:]

What the hell does Iraq have to do with 9/11?




The report ties Iraq to Al Quaeda directly

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: d33p]
    #2918433 - 07/22/04 10:45 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

public schools - why have they not failed so miserably in other countries? They can be done properly

Yes, some unions are not good. But without them, theres pretty much no way to fight your company for any decent protection - if you try, youre just plain screwed. Especially in such places as factories.

Environmental protection is a way to force domestic labor into sustainable practice. Sustainable = a way to actually plan for the long term.

Poor people - So it's ok to screw them all because some are lazy fuckers?

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Redo]
    #2918444 - 07/22/04 10:46 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Redo said:
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Zahid said:]

What the hell does Iraq have to do with 9/11?




The report ties Iraq to Al Quaeda directly




How?


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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: vampirism]
    #2918497 - 07/22/04 10:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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public schools - why have they not failed so miserably in other countries? They can be done properly The condition of America's youth has grown to a state where the current system is unworkable

Yes, some unions are not good. But without them, theres pretty much no way to fight your company for any decent protection - if you try, youre just plain screwed. Especially in such places as factories. The government should not be interfering with the economy is the way i see it. Its up to the people of the company and the company. I would say i oppose union regulation not the union themselves

Environmental protection is a way to force domestic labor into sustainable practice. Sustainable = a way to actually plan for the long term. Unfortunatly sustainable practice means nothing when another country is ready to take over the work regulation free

Poor people - So it's ok to screw them all because some are lazy fuckers? Neither bush nor i said screw them. I feel welfare and various other social programs have been detremental to the American poor. Some are just lazy and some are just fucked, not my problem




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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Zahid]
    #2918504 - 07/22/04 10:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Zahid Im looking, I saw a nice quote of it on OReilly and Im searching for it now and all I see is propaganda sites saying there is no alliance, which there really wasnt.

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Re: Former professor: Bush not qualified for President [Re: Redo]
    #2918549 - 07/22/04 11:00 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

What are you talking about.


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