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Extracting DMT with lemon juice...
    #2913928 - 07/21/04 09:14 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Taken from Erowid.
"Extraction of alkaloids can be performed on dry plant materials (based on Dr. Jonathan Ott's reports). An acid is used to exact the alkaloids of both the DMT and the MAOI containing plants. A solution of 1/3 lemon juice and 2/3 water is used to quickly boil the plant material. Pour off and repeat two more times. The dose is easier to determine because it is based on dry plant material. Three grams of Syrian rue per dose of DMT provides the required MAOI. Again, increasing the dosage of Syrian rue beyond 3g does not increase the potency of the DMT significantly more than 3g.

Important note: I have always seen references to staying away from aluminum for all sorts of chemical extractions and procedures. I believe that this is because aluminum bonds with a lot of contaminants that can then find their way into the brew (just think about having to clean calcium deposits off of your aluminum coffee maker with vinegar). Always use nice glass (pyrex is much less likely to break) or stainless steel.

The liquid form can serve as an oral dose, or it can be evaporated GENTLY AND SLOWLY to a goo. This goo can then be smoked for a very intense dose of DMT. Or the goo can be saved for oral doses. I recommend refrigeration. I have no information as to how to best store phalaris products to prevent spoilage and loss of potency.

There are a variety of chemical extraction techniques floating around on the net. I have little ability in evaluating the accuracy and safety of these techniques. I prefer to speak on subjects in which I have some faith in my knowledge. In any case, it does not seem likely that for small time experimenters, chemical reductions to pure alkaloids will be necessary. The above methods should work."


I noticed he put 'should' work! Has anyone tried smoking lemon juice extract as described, this would be a much better way of getting DMT than using all those nasty chems!


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2914025 - 07/21/04 09:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

if this was true do you think people would bother messing with all those 'nasty chems'?
it's not because it's on erowid that it's true. sure there are tons wonderful data but HE said 'should', he wasn't sure.
it sure is a cool anahuasca recipe and also teaches that one can dry it to resin and store but i really doubt one can come close to what he says that should be a very intense voyage, by smoking that crude resin.
get some caapi, it's a cool plant. =)


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: felixhigh]
    #2916575 - 07/22/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I just wanted some smokeable DMT even if I don't break through to the full experience, any ideas?


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2916715 - 07/22/04 03:50 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I'm interested in finding a cruder DMT extraction process too. It seems like none exist though, so it looks like I'll be giving the the 'nasty chem' extraction a try. It just seems that there should be a much easier way to get a concentrated smokable DMT product without completly isolating it :/

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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2916839 - 07/22/04 04:22 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

ayahuasca, anahuasca but when smoking, you cannot notice until you breakthrough.


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2917408 - 07/22/04 07:40 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I had a similar post a while ago. Plant material with lemon juice blended for hours. Strain the plants. Add amonia. evaporate.


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Turdy]
    #2919939 - 07/23/04 10:10 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'm in the UK, can't get ammonia only chem i can get is iso.


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2920108 - 07/23/04 10:57 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

really? I thought you could get amonia everywhere

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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Ego Death]
    #2920642 - 07/23/04 01:37 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

search well on the labstores, the guys usually are helpfull and want to make their money!
at least in my country some of these chemicals (organic solvents, etc) are controlled by the feds, one has only to give his ID card or drivers license and there you go.
just don't buy hundreds of liters per month or they're gonna get suspicious. no chance still?
btw, ammonium hydroxide and HCl are not the only acid/bases around... i'd find hard you not to be able to obtain any other lab grade base. be careful, corrosive and air-reacting, use mask and gloves!


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: felixhigh]
    #5699029 - 06/01/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Shit, you can get any chems via ebay. Look under chems and lab supplies.


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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: eve69]
    #5699064 - 06/01/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

.. and get tracked out the ass. Ebay is NOT a good place to buy chems.

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Re: Extracting DMT with lemon juice... [Re: Jack_Straw]
    #5699302 - 06/01/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nope. in the past 2 months, I've heard 2 stories of people being busted thanks to ebay. I'm sure there are dozens more you don't hear about.


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