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Offlinekottonmouthss
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Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms
    #2912711 - 07/21/04 02:49 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.jatox.com/abstracts/1998/jan-feb/becjiab.htm


Published: Journal of Analytical Toxicology, Volume 22, Number 1, January/February 1998, pp. 45?49.

Presence of Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushroom: Possible Role in Adverse Reactions
O. Beck, A. Helander, C. Karlson-Stiber, and N. Stephansson

The use of mushrooms containing the hallucinogenic substance psilocybin for intentional intoxication is relatively common. Occasionally, this results in adverse reactions with typical tachycardia that is not evidently caused by psilocybin. This study demonstrates the presence of phenylethylamine in the species Psilocybe semilanceata using gas chromatography?mass spectrometry and shows that the amount of this substance may vary much more than that of psilocybin. The highest amount of phenylethylamine (146 ?g/g wet weight) was observed in mushrooms from a case of three young men hospitalized because of adverse reactions. Comparison of the symptoms observed in clinical cases of magic mushroom intoxication with those after intake of pure psilocybin or phenylethylamine suggests that phenylethylamine might have a role in the development of adverse reactions to Psilocybe mushroom intake.

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2912724 - 07/21/04 02:52 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

What's the question?

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2912764 - 07/21/04 03:07 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I think he's making more of a statement.

Species Psilocybe semilanceata contatins phenylethylamine which when ingested produces adverse affects with tachycardia. Psilocybin does not cause this.

Are you saying stay away from that strand because it's fairly common among shroomers and to my knowledge no one has died from it. This is the first I've heard of hospitalization (which could be just due to having a bad trip).


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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2912807 - 07/21/04 03:27 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I remember reading about that one dude who ate a shitload of lib caps and ended up dying in his sleep..he had nothing else in his system(according to the article) so maybe this is why

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2912833 - 07/21/04 03:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

As far as i understand he's just throwing in an interesting article, that may help understand why sometimes people have adverse reactions to shrooms.

Just because semilanceata's contain PEA, doesn't mean you shouldn't take them. Many other things contain PEA including chocolate.

PEA is produced endogenously and is often said to be one of the neuro-chemicals responsible for the Love feeling in our species :wink:

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: esin]
    #2912864 - 07/21/04 03:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Shulgin has taken up to 1600mg of PEA with no activity found.

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2914018 - 07/21/04 09:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

yea....... pure phenethylamine is not psychedelic at any dose.....

lots of plants contain it however..... its just not talked about alot because there ussually isnt much interest in a chemical that does not do anything


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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2915471 - 07/22/04 10:23 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

hi,

the whole article is here, https://www.rhodium.ws/pdf/psilocybe-pea.pdf

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2923096 - 07/24/04 07:29 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Several European scholars have since re-examined P. semuilanceata and found no speed like chemicals inany of them. This again is a flase positive bit of research as bad as the FBI papaer which wrote about the purchase of Psilocybe cyanescens spore sp yringes from PF, wrote and paper and said no psilocine was found int he mycelia.

The saddest part is they id'ed the mushrooms from pictures from other mycol9ogisits books, having no knowledge that PF did not sell syrin ges of P. cyanescens but did sell P. cubensis.



The same is Carlos Castaneda's smoking humilito mushrooom powder and the recent FBI/DEA 11 million dollar 25 pounds of mushroom raid.

Ill informed persons studying botanical plants of which h they have no knowledge of to begin with.

mj

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2923098 - 07/24/04 07:32 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

IAMTHEWALRUS SAID,
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I remember reading about that one dude who ate a shitload of lib caps and ended up dying in his sleep..he had nothing else in his system(according to the article) so maybe this is why




There is no reported literature in journals or newspapers describing such an incident as you reported and a telephone conversation with the Poison Control Center in Atlanta, Georgia also has no written record of such a reported incident and no news service such as AP or UPI has any record of such an incident.

mj

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Re: Phenylethylamine in Hallucinogenic Psilocybe Mushrooms [Re: kottonmouthss]
    #2923250 - 07/24/04 09:27 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

With something as safe to ingest as mushrooms the anti drug lobby are forced to invent bullshit.


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