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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: Dragonaut]
    #2912693 - 07/21/04 04:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The Democrats are quasi-socialists who want to force the haves to take care of the have-nots, while the Republicans are money-crazy religious whackos who want to tell people what they can and can't do in the privacy of their own home. Fuck both parties!


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: Dragonaut]
    #2912896 - 07/21/04 06:01 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Democrats for people. Democrats are uniters.



Democrats are heavily into attempting to pit 'classes' against each other. They are the party of envy and victim hood, they promote irresponsibility under the guise of 'compassion.' They blame inanimate objects for the actions of those who use them. They want the federal government to be everyone's wet nurse. There is no tax they do not like. They despise individualism and promote a secular religion that puts the state/collective in the place of God while attempting to crush non-PC religious expression. They preach diversity and tolerance, as long as your opinions follow their approved guidelines. If your opinions don't coincide with theirs, they are extraordinarily intolerant of your differences and they will try to use the power of the state to make you conform. The Democrats are just as much 'dividers' as the Republicans.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: Evolving]
    #2913008 - 07/21/04 06:43 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Evolving! Very good my friend and well said.

I agree with Coral on the opinion that the republicans are less intrusive, but Silver makes some great points. The best point is about the Republican party losing all their values once they got elected. As a conservative it makes me angry to no end.

The "party of smaller government" has been in power for quite some time. They haven't lived up to their promises. They have owned Congress, they have the power to write the legislation but they don't deliver. For the last 4 years, they have had Congress, The Executive Office and the Supreme Court and what has happened? I don't hear Conservatives talking about conservative issues. Why don't we have school vouchers? Why haven't we privatized social security? What the hell is our immigration policy?

I am a conservative and I am proud of my beliefs. I think freedom loving conservative capitalists have great ideas. They are ideas that can help every American. The Reagan Revoultion told us that government wasn't going to solve the problem, but that government IS the problem. The Congress at the time was dominated by tax and spend liberals who were bought off by special interests. What would Ronald Reagan say if he was alive and well today of his revoultion?

The people in power in Congress today owe him a debt of gratitude, but they do a disservice to his name with their politics. They have bowed to special interests. They have embraced the politics of the pork barrel. The line their own pockets and rely on the strength of incumbancy now that they have redrawn the districts.

Someday, Republicans are going to be voted out of office. Then conservatives will have to take a step back to take stock of what "progress" was made. Of all the great ideas that are alive in conservative thought, I hope that they can do better than just bragging about busting Bill Clinton for getting a blow job. It makes my angry and apathetic. I feel helpless because no party really shares my values.

I am still voting Republican though. John Kerry frightens me to no end.

Great, now I am depressed. You people did this to me.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913287 - 07/21/04 08:11 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Tax and Spend ring a bell?????




It makes more sense than the "Borrow and Spend" policies of the current administration.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2913564 - 07/21/04 09:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Jeez, go back to your liberal economics professors.. Trickle down doesnt work either I'm sure.

STOP REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913566 - 07/21/04 09:18 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Jeez, go back to your liberal economics professors.. Trickle down doesnt work either I'm sure.

STOP REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH



Stop irresponsible spending.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913584 - 07/21/04 09:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Back up your statements with REAL facts and I will reciprocate..


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913588 - 07/21/04 09:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Like the FACT that Bush has failed to veto almost EVERY spending bill, even in the midst of recession?


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913597 - 07/21/04 09:25 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

ROFL
The House overwhelmingly passed a $275 billion highway and transit bill, testing the resolve of President Bush to hold the line on spending.
White House officials consider the legislation fiscally irresponsible and have said they will advise Bush to veto it.

Friday's 357-65 vote sent the election-year jobs-and-concrete bill to negotiations with the Senate, which in February approved a $318 billion package, also by more than the two-thirds margin needed to override a presidential veto.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913600 - 07/21/04 09:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I said almost. And btw, that only said that Whitehouse correspondents would ADVISE him to veto it, meaning he hasn't done so already.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913605 - 07/21/04 09:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Need more?


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913606 - 07/21/04 09:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Be my guest.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913607 - 07/21/04 09:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

"The greatest power of the veto is not in its use but in its threat. [Bush] has threatened it many times, and it has modified the legislation," said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia?s Center for Politics


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913609 - 07/21/04 09:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Still waiting.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913614 - 07/21/04 09:30 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Wanna look at Kerry's record on taxes and spending?


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913623 - 07/21/04 09:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not talking about Kerry. I'm talking about Bush. Don't change the subject just cuz you're wrong.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913631 - 07/21/04 09:33 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Just asking, I figure your going third party anyway. Thank God...


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913636 - 07/21/04 09:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Please back up your thought that we will have to pay for this later.


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2913641 - 07/21/04 09:38 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)


President Bush's FY 2005 budget is another clear indication that the President remains focused on winning the War on Terror and protecting the homeland, while maintaining strong economic growth and cutting the deficit in half in five years. President Bush has consistently adopted budgets that reduce the rate of discretionary spending.

Non-Defense, Non-Homeland Discretionary spending under George W. Bush

15 percent in 2001 (Proposed by President Clinton)
6 percent in 2002
5 percent in 2003
4 percent in 2004
0.5 percent for 2005


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Re: Do you "like" the US government? [Re: coralrives]
    #2913650 - 07/21/04 09:41 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Please back up your thought that we will have to pay for this later.



It's common sense. If you spend more money than you have, you go into debt. You still owe the money, plus interest adds up. Then there's also inflation to consider.


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