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Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo
    #2912222 - 07/21/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

One common vision from my adventures in the psychadelic landscape is that of some sort of 'language', often written on colored ribbons. My buddy and I shared this same vision of language simultaneously during one particularly adventurous escapade.

Later I discovered the art of Alex Grey and saw for the first time, in the halo of his portrait of Sophia, a representation of the same language I had seen. My buddy confirmed that it was indeed the same written language he had seen.

Here's a link to the portrait. My computer is acting screwy so I wasn't able to just download the image and post it. It's the picture on the left. Click on the image to direct to the web page the image is used on. Then scroll down.

http://images.google.com/images?q=alex%2...sa=N&tab=wi

My question is, does this language look familiar to you too?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2912446 - 07/21/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Do you have a link to a larger image?
It is about the size of a postage stamp and I can't see any fine detail.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Jellric]
    #2912473 - 07/21/04 03:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Try clicking on the image...it should open up to some web page. Then scroll down.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2912565 - 07/21/04 04:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if you click on the image to see it bigger a million pop ups open and still no larger image


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: spock]
    #2912586 - 07/21/04 04:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry about that guys! It worked for me!?

O.K., I got my system to work long enough to download the immage.



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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2912767 - 07/21/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i remember trying to read those letters


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: redgreenvines]
    #2912811 - 07/21/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Have you seen them in your own visions?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2913000 - 07/21/04 06:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have had some, but the symbols were different- more like heiroglyphics.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2913028 - 07/21/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I never have.. But I'm sure I'll see it next time, now that I've seen this picture.. ha..


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2913030 - 07/21/04 06:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Some of those symbols do look interestingly familliar to me..but I can't really pinpoint where I might have seen them before. I wonder how they translate?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #2913051 - 07/21/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You've never seen symolic language in any visions or you haven't seen THIS symbolic language?

I guess I'm trying to get a guage as to how many people experience symbolic language durring any kind of 'trip'. And see if any one else has experienced a languege set similar to the one around Sophia.

Yeah ha! You probably will see them next time.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: ekomstop]
    #2913079 - 07/21/04 07:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"I wonder how they translate? "

I don't know, but that's a good question. I pulled down my Copy of "Sacred Mirrors" and looked up the image. The small block of print under the picture reads:

"I am the first and the last, I am the honored one and the scorned one. I am the whore, and the holy one. I am the wife and the virgin. I am the mother and the daughter...I am she whose wedding is great, and I have not taken a husband...I am knowledge, and ignorance."

I tried to see if I could find a corelation between the text and the language in the halo but have yet failed. Maybe someone else might wanna give it a try.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2914357 - 07/22/04 01:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow this is really interesting because I have seen the "language vision" you speak of MANY times. It's always been one of the most fascinating visions IMO. The first time I saw it I was looking at a line of trees and suddenly they came alive at the same time and started swaying and in their tracers they spelled out these symbols that I knew were some kind of lanuage but could not read. They looked remarkably similar to the symbols in those paintings!


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: pschumach]
    #2914694 - 07/22/04 03:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yay! I made contact! Did you see that painting before you ever saw them in your visions?

If not then that is awesome isn't it?

So...you, Allysen Grey, my buddy Rob, and I have all seen writing similar to this in our visions. What does that mean, if anything? Perhaps it is a true language, with meaning determined by all rather than the individual. Perhaps if enough people can recall thier own visions of the language, we can record that language in 'this world', decipher it and read it. What would the message say?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2915103 - 07/22/04 08:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I meant that specifically..

I have definitely seen streams of symbols that could be interpretted as written language if one were to be able to interpret it..


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2915136 - 07/22/04 09:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

kool pic - looks most like the language symbols from the matrix to me!

To me it's only reprasentational (as all attempts to express this type of language in our everyday reality are) because I can apply it to my memory of experiences, and I can see the relation. But the picture is rather like a pencil line drawing when compared to the high definition photograph of (my)experience.

It reminds me of the ribbons of DNA I see which can be traversed and entered by my consciousness, but most of the language I find is at least 3 dimensional and emits the thing we usually need words to describe. In other words there is no sign and no signified, when I 'speak' the thing is emitted (often amongst the patterns which are everywhere, my consciousnes lies amongst the strands of DNA and the ultra weak lazer light they emit), and when I am 'spoken to' I do not hear and translate - I see and know. The only way I understand is by feeling, and by the obviousness of the metaphor which IS before my eyes.

I actually find biology quite useful - and when many of the visions of the ancient shamans that have been turned into paintings are compared to microscope images of DNA level activity, there are suprising similarities.

DNA is the language of all biological life, the plants speak it, the animals speak it, everything speaks it.

Of course we can go beyond the DNA...for it is by no means the start point of consciousness, but I personally believe DNA is an interface between the physical and the soul, which we can learn to use.

Or some shit like that anyway


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: CJay]
    #2915348 - 07/22/04 11:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

have you read the Invisible Landscape by T. McKenna?

And I've noticed many times while tripping that if I look at a person's face, symbols will start to form and it will appear as if they have some tribal markings / lines drawn over their faces. Some of them are symbols similar to these.


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2916101 - 07/22/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I almost always see letters/symbols while tripping. I see them like a screen overlayed over my vision, swirling and moving around, I've never been able to "read" them, as they rarely stay still long enough. Those symbols do look somewhat familiar, although I'm sure I've seen symbols from "traditional" languages. I wonder what the purpose of this writing is?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2916155 - 07/22/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Source said:
Have you seen them in your own visions?



yes on 'cid
and in dreams
always they moved/or dissolved before being readable
I used to think they were text or hockey team logos,
on salvia they are more solid but definitely not text
eyecandy that can be described if I have a pen and am
momentarily erudite.

I actually think they are from the visual field (& memory recalled visual field is a component equally) which XOR's (binary complements to the retinal pixels' color values, like an afterimage mix) with a preceeding visual field and in this way produces the residual candy pattern.

sure there could be a message as well, but that would make those elves very very smart ehh?


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Re: Psychedelic Language In Sophia's Halo [Re: Source]
    #2916308 - 07/22/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

When I was in college, a few of us were tripping at night in the 'formal garden,' which had stone benches and a few not-as-yet stolen gargoyles. Sitting there, very high, I looked at the ground and in the darkness I tried to make out the words on a rectangular bronze plaque set into the ground. The letters didn't look Latin like English does, so I thought at the time Greek because there seemed to be 'Pi's' and 'Deltas,' and such (I now know the Greek letters a lot better 30 years later), so I reached down to feel the letters with my fingers. Dust. My fingers touched talcum-powder textured earth with ripples and waffle foot-prints. No bronze plaque, no strange alphabet.

I think Alex Grey might have experienced this sort of thing. On the other hand, I have a signed copy of his 'Praying,' framed up, and the halo has a number of prayers in various alphabets like Hebrew, Arabic, Tibetan, Sanskrit and Latin and for Grey to synthesize a new alphabet from these would be an easy task for him.

Then again, the Enochian language imparted to Dr. John Dee through his medium Edward Kelly came through a scrying crystal (one of whose I photographed at the British Museum), ostensbly from an 'angel,' but more likely a being of devilish constitution (given the messages to wife-swap, and entity-evoking magickal procedures).

One might assume with good confidence that all intelligent life forms have language (insects on up the chain) and life forms with equal or greater intelligence of humans will have written language. Inter-dimensional, other-plane, extra-terrestrial (e.g., the I-beam symbols from Roswell) are all included here.


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