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OfflineZenGecko
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Agents of the system unite!!!
    #2904668 - 07/19/04 06:44 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Ok i have this personal belief that we are aspects of the system as a whole, subject to the will of the system as agents acting on behalf of the system, and that the likely will of the system is to know itself, completely.  How many agree? and if so what do u consider as proof for this belief. Feel free to respond if u disagree also, im just looking to flesh out this belief as much as possible and find any proof for or against this one so that i can better serve my place as an agent of the system :wink: Im probably mainly looking for evidence supporting this belief that i may not have considered because it seems likely that any counter arguements will be based on the assumption that free will is real, and i've already covered that in the free will is bs post, and the im back and still convinced free will is bs post. So if you have a free will based counter arguement go to those posts please, and it can be addressed there. If you have a non free will based counter arguement to the above belief...then fire away here!

Sincerely,
That which is, and has no choice but to be.

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Offlinedeafpanda
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Re: Agents of the system unite!!! [Re: ZenGecko]
    #2904772 - 07/19/04 07:31 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

If we make up the system, and the system has a will, then if we have no will of our own, there surely must be some other part of the system that contains the will? What would you say does this?

It would make more sense for me to believe that our will makes up the will of the system.

I see it more as an experiment. Not a test, but a "let's see what happens if we make some laws and put some matter there".

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Re: Agents of the system unite!!! [Re: deafpanda]
    #2911159 - 07/21/04 01:46 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I Agree that most likely our will is a small part of a collective will, that forms the will of the system, but its that will in its totality that is done, and often our own personal will is absorbed, ignored, over ruled, washed down stream with the flow of the total collective will, and thats the will that gets done.

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