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OfflineSeppuko
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Let me see if I have this right...
    #2908948 - 07/20/04 04:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

All right. Spores are sure to be here in a few days, so it must be made absolutely certain this is being done by the book...and to see if what's NOT being done by the book is acceptable.

##Day 1:

Supplies I need to get:
12 Canning Jars
Bag of Vermiculite
Brown Rice Flour



Steps to glory!:

First, before I forget, I will punch 4 holes in each of the jar lids.

Next, I mix the substrate. 6 cups Verm, 3 cups BRF, 3 cups water (Know of a positively better mixture? Haven't bought the supplies YET..so tell me :laugh:)

Put a little bit of verm on the bottom of the jar and fill it near to the top (about 2cm) with the subtrate that was mixed together), and then put a bit more verm in on top.

The tops get screwed on, and is covered with tinfoil.

Then, one of two things happen.

IF A PRESSURE COOKER CAN BE LOCATED:
the cans (probably 6 at a time) get PCed at 15psi for an hour.

IF NOT...:
the cans get boiled in a large pot (probably 6 at a time) for MORE than an hour (better safe than sorry :/)..and while it boils, the water level must be checked. It has to be 2-3 inches at all times (right?). If it drops below that, more water must be added.

Then...
They sit to cool in the cooker/pot until they are cool to the touch. When that happens, they are removed to set in some place to dry overnight.



##Day 2:

Shake the syringe and heat the tip.

Inject 1/4-1/2 cc into each hole for a total of 1-2cc per jar (number check - is that right?)

Tape up the holes (I've read that this is really important and I've also read that this doesn't matter at ALL. What do you guys have to say about it?)

Label the jars so it's known which strain is used on each (Just for reference)

Set in a place around 75-85 degrees (I'm thinkin behind a computer. Just checked, it can get pretty hot :X) for the next few weeks..Probably in a cardboard box, just so nobody asks "Hey, what the hell are those?") for a few weeks. Check for myc growth.

##Day X (dunno when this will be :P)

CREATION OF THE POD:

Supplies I need to get:
(poorman's pod technique, a bit modified..but not much :P)
Plastic storage container
air pump
geolite (or something like it)
2 "bubble wands"

Poke 2 tube-sized holes into the side of the container and pass the tubing through it.

Connect the bubble wands, and put 4-5 inches of geolite into the container. Add water until it's an inch from the top.

Place THIS setup inside a cardboard box (so it's a bit more secretive, and so light can only shine in from the top, so little mushies know which way up is).

Hook up the pump outside the setup.

Evenly place as many fully colonies cakes into the setup as possible without overcrowding them.

Leave setup in the corner. Check every day or every few days (Yeah. I'll be so excited, it will be every day) to see progress.

##Day X (Hmmm)

When the mushrooms are moderately large, and their veils begin the break...

gently pulling (or cutting? I've read both ways work. Which one is better?) the mushrooms from the cake, remove them.

Wash them, and then place them in a Food Dehydrator (Hey, I already HAVE this item!) for as long as it takes the mushrooms to become cracker-dry

##Day X (Woohoo!)

Enjoy.




Does that all seem right? could someone answer the questions I asked throughout it?


Thanks a ton.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Seppuko]
    #2908997 - 07/20/04 05:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

All sounds good. I tape the jars and once myc is spotted I take the tape off then. Why let em loose moisture before you spot the myc?

1/4 cc is good. 1 cc per jar.

If in a pinch for cash and if the weight of the pod doesn't matter you can use lava rock for 1/10th the price. When I came up with the pod I tested it with geolite, and lava rock and the results were the same.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Magash]
    #2909021 - 07/20/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Excellent. Mag, you are a god :P

I thought of another question or two but I didn't want to start a new thread to answer them...so since you're reading, I'll ask in this thread:

(1) Have you tested casing with the PMP? Just like, spreading it over the rocks? If so, how did THAT turn out? I don't think I really wanna try it yet (Mehh too newbish)

(2) After PCing the jars, is it OK to let them sit for longer than just a day? Assuming I PC tonight, would be all right to wait for another few days for my spores to arrive?

(3) Do I really need an RH meter? I don't know how much cash I'll have after this, so I'd like to skip stuff that isn't totally required until the end (I'll spend it if I have it, but if not I don't wanna be missing something important like the verm :P)


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Seppuko]
    #2909063 - 07/20/04 05:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

(1) Have you tested casing with the PMP? Just like, spreading it over the rocks? If so, how did THAT turn out? I don't think I really wanna try it yet (Mehh too newbish) Casings work fine in the pod. I just make em like normal and just set the container on the geolite.


(2) After PCing the jars, is it OK to let them sit for longer than just a day? Assuming I PC tonight, would be all right to wait for another few days for my spores to arrive? Should't be a problem.


(3) Do I really need an RH meter? I don't know how much cash I'll have after this, so I'd like to skip stuff that isn't totally required until the end (I'll spend it if I have it, but if not I don't wanna be missing something important like the verm :P) I'd get the meter. Nice to be safe.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Magash]
    #2909099 - 07/20/04 05:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

right-o, thanks for the replies/


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Seppuko]
    #2909165 - 07/20/04 05:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

make sure you dont heat when in the dehydrator.. remember heat is bad!


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: apoc]
    #2909192 - 07/20/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

heat is very bad :laugh: I got a dehydrator when I was younger and I used it to make fruit rollup type things. It was awesome...but I had to get one that didn't use heat for some of the stuff iw as using it for.

Haven't used it in years :X


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Seppuko]
    #2909510 - 07/20/04 07:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i'm using lava rock in magash's poor man's pod and it works awesome! it weighs a ton though. be sure to wash it outside cuz it is dirty as hell.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: TomSawyer]
    #2909562 - 07/20/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you mean wash the lava rock outside? is geolite/hydroton exclusively sold at places that deal with hydroponics?


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Edited by IAmTheSickness (07/20/04 08:15 PM)


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2909646 - 07/20/04 08:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you mean wash the lava rock outside?.

yes.

is geolite/hydroton exclusively sold at places that deal with hydroponics?.

i believe so.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: TomSawyer]
    #2909649 - 07/20/04 08:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

fucking shit! ok, lava rock it is!


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: mycopsycho]
    #2910835 - 07/21/04 01:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'm gonna go with Lava Rocks, then :smile:

Thanks for the replies, guys.


[edit] another question...

perlite CANNOT be used as a vermiculite replacement, am I correct?[/edit]


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Edited by Seppuko (07/21/04 01:56 AM)


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: Seppuko]
    #2911249 - 07/21/04 04:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

no perlite CANNOT be used as a vermiculite replacement.
you are correct.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: TomSawyer]
    #2911264 - 07/21/04 05:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the Lava Rocks im using is ozark landscape rock i got it at wal mart.
$3.00 a big bag.


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Re: Let me see if I have this right... [Re: TomSawyer]
    #2911273 - 07/21/04 05:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i'll just have to put that on my shopping list :grin:


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