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 Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin 
#2908438 - 07/20/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Linda Ronstadt, one of America's most popular vocalists for over three decades, was booted from the Aladdin and physically escorted off the property without even being allowed to return to her hotel room, for dedicating the song "Desperado" to Michael Moore and his film "Farenheit 9/11".
Whatever you think of Moore, this should appall every American here who still believes in Free Speech and opposes fascism. If this irks you as much as it does me, send your thoughts to:
Bill Timmins
President
Aladdin Casino and Hotel
Las Vegas, NV
(sorry - don't know the zip)
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 Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908462 - 07/20/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're just going to end up with a bunch of people bitching that "oh...it's a private business so they have every right to escort her out of the building!" 
(I agree with you, though)
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908463 - 07/20/04 12:38 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Linda Ronstadt, one of America's most popular vocalists for over three decades,
         
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908471 - 07/20/04 12:40 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Linda Ronstadt, one of America's most popular vocalists for over three decades,
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: trendal]
#2908472 - 07/20/04 12:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're just going to end up with a bunch of people bitching that "oh...it's a private business so they have every right to escort her out of the building!"
This says a lot about you.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908477 - 07/20/04 12:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it was my business I would boot her out for just mentioning michael moore.. that guy's a fuck face
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908480 - 07/20/04 12:43 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The phrase "This says a lot about you" seems to get thrown around here a lot whenever someone doesn't actually have an opinion to post about...but they still feel the need to hit that "reply" button
Do you have an opinion about what Swami posted, Innvertigo?
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908486 - 07/20/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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She's paid to sing, not to give political endorsments. While I don't think it was all that bad they had every right to ask her to leave.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908496 - 07/20/04 12:46 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did not say one of Innvertigos' faves now did I?
Your ignorance shows itself yet again. 4 Gold albums and 14 Platinum albums put her in the top 100 best-selling musicians of all time.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: trendal]
#2908500 - 07/20/04 12:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The phrase "This says a lot about you" seems to get thrown around here a lot whenever someone doesn't actually have an opinion to post about...
I always find it humorous when someone pre-empts an argument with a ill thought out comment like you posted. You said it yourself, it's a private company which gives them the right to hire and fire whoever they want. I thought my opinion was obvious because your comment was so blatantly against private industry.
don't take it personallt, I'm just stating my opinion.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908511 - 07/20/04 12:50 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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She's paid to sing, not to give political endorsments. While I don't think it was all that bad they had every right to ask her to leave.
Yes they had a legal right, just as the Patriot Act gives the government a legal right to label you a terrorist and hold you incommunicado, so what?
Now lets' imagine the reaction if she said, "I dedicate this song to all our troops in Iraq" and the owner was a pacifist and escorted her out of the building. O'Reilly and Limbaugh would be foaming-at-the-mouth. Wait, that is redundant...
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908512 - 07/20/04 12:50 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your ignorance shows itself yet again. 4 Gold albums and 14 Platinum albums put her in the top 100 best-selling musicians of all time.
Yes my ignorance 
I'm not the one telling private industries what they should or shouldn't do Mr. Hitler
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908516 - 07/20/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually that isn't my opinion at all...so no your opinion was not obvious in any way
Nor was your post "this says a lot about you" in reply to Swami's original post. You started out in this thread with a pointless laugh at the fact that Swami said Linda Ronstadt is one of America's most popular vocalists...which was quite obviously not the point of the thread whatsoever. Then you decide to go further off-topic by taking a jab at me, eh? Beyond that...I'm not here to argue with anyone, let alone you, so don't flatter yourself 
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908525 - 07/20/04 12:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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An honest man would say, "OK, you got me on the Ronstadt popularity thing, but my opinion on whether or not the owner..."
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908528 - 07/20/04 12:54 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes they had a legal right, just as the Patriot Act gives the goevrnment a leagl right to label you a terrorist and hold you incommunicado, so what?
get your head out, this has nothing to do with her being asked to leave.
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Now lets' imagine the reaction if she said, "I dedicate this song to all our troops in Iraq" and the owner was a pacifist and escorted her out of the building. O'Reilly and Limbaugh would be foaming-at-the-mouth. Wait, that is redundant...
who knows? it all depends on the PRIVATE company that is hiring her. You nor I know what would of happened. I personally wouldn't care, but then again I don't own a Casino.
As a side note that casino, I believe, is close to changing owners soon and Linda may be asked to come back.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908542 - 07/20/04 12:58 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ronstadt, who would go on to sell 50 million albums and win 10 Grammy Awards as a solo artist, left Arizona for L.A. in 1964 as a member of the folk music trio the Stone Poneys. Only 18, her musical horizons were about to be expanded by the budding folk-rock revolution.
I would admit to her record, I just laughed at the thought that she be mentioned as "a top performer." She just never comes up in conversations when someone says, "Ok, who is the top bands in the last 30 years..."
As far as the Aladin goes, good for them. If it was my casino, I'd done the same damn thing.! Poo-poo on them for not letting her go back to her room though...LOL
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: trendal]
#2908555 - 07/20/04 01:02 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nor was your post "this says a lot about you" in reply to Swami's original post. You started out in this thread with a pointless laugh at the fact that Swami said Linda Ronstadt is one of America's most popular vocalists...
I forgot, liberals not only Like Linda Ronstadt, but they lack a sense of humor as well. Pity.
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Nor was your post "this says a lot about you" in reply to Swami's original post.
Actually that was directed at you, look who I replied to.
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Then you decide to go further off-topic by taking a jab at me, eh?
You liberals are sooo sensitive, I took no "Jab" at you (did the Arnold "girlie man" thing bother you?). Relax, I disagree with you on just about everything and the more you type the more solid my beliefs become. It's a simple tacktic I see many of you use. You say something philosophically wrong then pre-empt it by sayin "I'll bet they'll say this or that". Listen if you want to debate yourself or other like minded people, stick to the Pub.
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I'm not here to argue with anyone, let alone you, so don't flatter yourself
There's always the Pub my man.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908558 - 07/20/04 01:03 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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What does this have to do with politics, activism or law?
They had every right to throw her out, (assuming it didn't violate the contract) just like you have every right to bitch about it. If she has a union, they should probably boycott the establishment over this incident.
I hope nobody thinks the government should force businesses to allow speech.
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908559 - 07/20/04 01:04 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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An honest man would say, "OK, you got me on the Ronstadt popularity thing, but my opinion on whether or not the owner..."
I can't stand her and most people my age or younger can't either. This doesn't take away the fact that she was "once" popular. What has she done in the 90's?
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Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908569 - 07/20/04 01:09 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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You say something philosophically wrong
Please point out the flaw(s) in my "philosophically wrong" points (though I wasn't aware I had made any...) as I do enjoy being wrong (no better way to learn).
I disagree with you on just about everything
Good to know! I can stop wasting my breath...and we can just agree to dissagree, eh?
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