|
Evolving
Resident Cynic

Registered: 10/01/02
Posts: 5,385
Loc: Apt #6, The Village
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908572 - 07/20/04 01:12 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Ronstadt sucks musical dick. I would have hired Ozzy Osbourne. From Drudge Report: OZZY JOINS BUSH BASH WITH HITLER MONTAGE Thu Jul 15 2004 11:38:38 ET Osbourne opened his concert with the song "War Pigs," featuring a video portrait comparing Bush to Adolph Hitler. The video featured Bush and Hitler on the same screen, with the caption: "Same sh*t different a**hole," says a source. Footage of bombs dropping and Hitler marching flashed as Ozzy screamed and guitars screeched. Ozzy also flashed a picture of Bush with a clown nose, caption: 'The White House Circus."
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908579 - 07/20/04 01:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
get your head out, this has nothing to do with her being asked to leave.
A legal right has nothing to do with a legal right?
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: trendal]
#2908588 - 07/20/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Please point out the flaw(s) in my "philosophically wrong" points (though I wasn't aware I had made any...)
Your comment about private industries.
Quote:
Good to know! I can stop wasting my breath...and we can just agree to dissagree, eh?
eh? you can stop wasting it if you want, if that's what you consider it. You're not used to people disagreeing with you I see.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: coralrives]
#2908591 - 07/20/04 01:18 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I would admit to her record, I just laughed at the thought that she be mentioned as "a top performer." "Top vocalist" has now magically transformed into "top performer". Record sales speak louder than your opinion.
She just never comes up in conversations when someone says, "Ok, who is the top bands in the last 30 years..." The world revolves around you and your friends and those of your age group? Try to expand a tiny bit.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908596 - 07/20/04 01:19 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
apples and oranges. Comparing what they did to her (as a private industry) to what the patriot act is, is not even similar.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
Evolving
Resident Cynic

Registered: 10/01/02
Posts: 5,385
Loc: Apt #6, The Village
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908610 - 07/20/04 01:22 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Although I don't agree with the Aladdin's decision to hire Linda Ronstadt, I agree with their right to hire her. Although I don't agree with the Aladdin's reason for firing Linda Ronstadt, I agree with their right to fire her.
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908614 - 07/20/04 01:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
you seem more upset at the fact that noone likes Linda rather than the topic you started. hmmpphh.
what's funny is that I personally wouldn't of cared if I owned the casino, and actually I would of rather had OZZY there as well. I'm just defending the owners right to do what's within his rights. I'm crazy like that.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Evolving]
#2908624 - 07/20/04 01:26 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
you're an extremist centrist. 
personally I wish everyone (and that goes for Cons and Libs) would just relaxed and quit being so uptight. Life's got to suck being that mad and stuffy all day.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
coralrives
Adventurer

Registered: 05/22/04
Posts: 174
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908628 - 07/20/04 01:26 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Swami said: I would admit to her record, I just laughed at the thought that she be mentioned as "a top performer." "Top vocalist" has now magically transformed into "top performer". Record sales speak louder than your opinion.
She just never comes up in conversations when someone says, "Ok, who is the top bands in the last 30 years..." The world revolves around you and your friends and those of your age group? Try to expand a tiny bit.
Oh, My bad, sorry Mr. Anal Retentive. Hell at least I admitted she has a good track record, (Track record, of course, is a metaphor for her outstanding singing career.)
Thats why I found it funny to ME, ME, yes what I find funny reflects my environment and experiences. If you tried to have some of that, you may find you too have a sense of humor... Good luck with that! Peace
-------------------- "Be good and you will be lonesome." Mark Twain Grow Log
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908636 - 07/20/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
you seem more upset at the fact that noone likes Linda rather than the topic you started. hmmpphh.
Yet another false assumption. You are batting better than average today with 0 for 3. I do not own, nor have I ever owned a single Ronstadt CD, LP or 45 nor have I seen her in concert. You went off on a tangent with your normal ignorant and ill-researched blather and I corrected it. Get over it.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908662 - 07/20/04 01:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
apples and oranges. Comparing what they did to her (as a private industry) to what the patriot act is, is not even similar. Both are legal acts. Is it that difficult for you to grok? As a shroomery member, I will assume that you do, or have done, illegal substances. You CAN or could have been arrested for exercising your right to the guaranteed "pursuit of happiness". You made the point that they had a right because it was legal as if all laws are inherently just and ethical. I concede and have never claimed that they did not have the law "on their side". That does not make it distasteful and inherently against the American ideal of Free Speech.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
Edited by Swami (07/20/04 01:48 PM)
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908667 - 07/20/04 01:37 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Yet another false assumption. You are batting better than average today with 0 for 3. I do not own, nor have I ever owned a single Ronstadt CD, LP or 45
suuuuuuuuure. ok, whatever you say. 
Quote:
You went off on a tangent with your normal ignorant and ill-researched blather and I corrected it. Get over it.
ouch, that hurts. Show me how you guys whine because I think this would be an appropriate time to do it.
I find it hillarious that NONE of you think that the Casino has rights. And as i've said before: That says a lot about you people. Take that any way you want to. The only Blather
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Evolving]
#2908670 - 07/20/04 01:38 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Ronstadt sucks musical dick.
*Swami wonders how evolving knows about musical dick...*
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
trendal
J♠


Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 20,815
Loc: Ontario, Canada
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Innvertigo]
#2908674 - 07/20/04 01:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Please point out where anyone said that the Casino doesn't have any rights...
Or even where someone said that they don't have the SPECIFIC right to throw out anyone they choose...
--------------------
Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: coralrives]
#2908675 - 07/20/04 01:39 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Thats why I found it funny to ME, ME, yes what I find funny reflects my environment and experiences. If you tried to have some of that, you may find you too have a sense of humor... Good luck with that!
Start a thread on S&P called "Does Swami have a sense of humor?" and find out for yourself.
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
coralrives
Adventurer

Registered: 05/22/04
Posts: 174
Last seen: 8 years, 10 months
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908686 - 07/20/04 01:43 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
first off, it's free spEEch. Secondly, you may want to research that Bill you are touting. The first amendment. For instance, did you know one cannot state that he will kill the president? If this is done in front of Secret service or other law enforcement, that person can be arrested and charged, LEGALY. Too, one cannot threaten anothers life, its called assault, not free speech. ONe cannot incite riots, or yell "FIRE" in a movie house....
-------------------- "Be good and you will be lonesome." Mark Twain Grow Log
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908694 - 07/20/04 01:46 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Both are legal acts. Is it that difficult for you to grok?
I'm not debating if they are "legal" rights or not. One has to do with a private industry dictating what goes on within his/her establishment. The other does not. Is that hard for you to grok?
Quote:
As a shroomery member, I will assume that you do, or have done, illegal substances. You CAN or could have been arrested for exercising your right to the guaranteed "pursuit of happiness".
sure have, now you're drifting over la la land. let me know when you want to get back on topic.
Quote:
You made the point that they had a right because it was legal as if all laws are inherently just and ethical.
point to me where I said that all laws are ethical?
Quote:
I concede and have never claimed that they did not have the law "on their side". That does not make it distasteful and inherently against the American ideal of Free Speach.
Performers are "spokspersons" for the venue they are performming at. Apparantly those that are in charge at the Casino were expressing their freedom of speech by asking her to leave. Like I said, I really wouldn't give a shit, but i'm not that owner.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
afoaf
CEO DBK?


Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 32,665
Loc: Ripple's Heart
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: Swami]
#2908699 - 07/20/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
if you read the rest of the article you would see that she practically incited a riot at the show.
If Ice Cube got up on stage at the Staples center and started throwing up pyru, starting a melee in the venue, I'd expect them to do the same thing...escort his ass out of the building.
I don't see why these artists insist on injecting so much of their politics into their shows...especially someone like Rondstadt, an artist with barely a leg to stand on, doubly so when you consider the venue...
shit, how many liberals are going to some second rate casino show in vegas to see a third rate vocal act?
-------------------- All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.
|
Innvertigo
Vote Libertarian!!


Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 16,296
Loc: Crackerville, Michigan U...
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: afoaf]
#2908711 - 07/20/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
especially someone like Rondstadt, an artist with barely a leg to stand on, doubly so when you consider the venue...
you're going to have Swami all pissed off now.
--------------------
America....FUCK YEAH!!! Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
Swami
Eggshell Walker

Registered: 01/18/00
Posts: 15,413
Loc: In the hen house
|
Re: Linda Ronstadt booted from Aladdin [Re: coralrives]
#2908713 - 07/20/04 01:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
first off, it's free spEEch. (I thought you detested anal retentiveness...) Believe it or not I was eating a peach as I typed that. 
The first amendment. This is an incomplete thought and not a sentence.
For instance, did you know one cannot state that he will kill the president? If this is done in front of Secret service or other law enforcement, that person can be arrested and charged, LEGALY. (Oh, you mean "legally".) Your ever-so-enlightening ramble does not pertain to praising and dedicating a song to a fellow American, now does it?
--------------------
The proof is in the pudding.
|
|