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solarshroomster
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Dreams are amazing! 2
#29006296 - 10/30/24 07:35 PM (3 days, 5 hours ago) |
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It's so cool this idea that every night (what is time?), your mind just recreates the "world".
You go from one reality to the next. I don't think "I" appreciate this enough. In your mind, you re-imagine earth and completely change. When you think about the universe generating your life -- it's all alive!!
-------------------- Chopin in Eternal Sonata: "I believe that I am somehow being tested. That I am on this journey to come to some realization. And in order to do so, I think I’m supposed to live my life to the fullest, even if it is in this muddled world of dream and reality."
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The idea it is alive is so good with shedding reluctance.
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Everyone hallucinates wildly for 8 hours every night, but psychedelics are illegal. Kinda weird when you think about it.
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The Blind Ass
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Re: Dreams are amazing! [Re: nooneman] 4
#29006503 - 10/30/24 10:09 PM (3 days, 2 hours ago) |
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Yep.
Most people I know in my life don’t see how that’s true though. They seem to believe that dreams are something else entirely. And that basically hallucinations are for people who are either: 1) ‘on drugs’ 2) or ‘are crazy/schizophrenic’
Call it a lack of critical thinking, or whatnot, but I still find it odd that it’s still not understood as largely the same phenomenon too.
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solarshroomster
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Re: Dreams are amazing! [Re: nooneman]
#29006517 - 10/30/24 10:28 PM (3 days, 2 hours ago) |
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Quote:
The Blind Ass said: Yep.
Most people I know in my life don’t see how that’s true though. They seem to believe that dreams are something else entirely. And that basically hallucinations are for people who are either: 1) ‘on drugs’ 2) or ‘are crazy/schizophrenic’
Call it a lack of critical thinking, or whatnot, but I still find it odd that it’s still not understood as largely the same phenomenon too.
I think this is spot on. Where do "we" go when "we" dream? When "we" wake? I don't know, it all feels like it's a waking and sleeping from different states.
This too:
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nooneman said: Everyone hallucinates wildly for 8 hours every night, but psychedelics are illegal. Kinda weird when you think about it.
Quote:
nooneman said: Everyone hallucinates wildly for 8 hours every night, but psychedelics are illegal. Kinda weird when you think about it.
Edited by solarshroomster (10/30/24 10:48 PM)
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syncro
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'Where do "we" go when "we" dream? When "we" wake? I don't know, it all feels like it's a waking and sleeping from different states.'
Reminded what is said to be turiya, a fourth 'state' among the three of waking, dreaming and deep sleep. The only thing I guess we can identify that we take into all three is awareness, if that in deep sleep, but in times resembling deep sleep while aware as well.
Some argue we are aware in deep sleep, but memory is not functioning as such.
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Re: Dreams are amazing! [Re: syncro] 3
#29006775 - 10/31/24 08:01 AM (2 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Many compare the waking state to dreaming… just relative degrees of semblance of permanence and stability in the scenes of our lives.
I wonder to compare the waking state to a lucid dream: to me the lucid dream seems more “alive” than a typical day in the life
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syncro
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I like that as, making the waking state as visionary. An ideal to tack on the wall. It's elusive like maintaining that all the gaps formed by ego are alive.
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Blue Cthulhu
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Re: Dreams are amazing! [Re: syncro] 2
#29006915 - 10/31/24 09:56 AM (2 days, 14 hours ago) |
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Yes interesting how the ego papers over the gaps and makes narratives (or tries to put experiences into pre-formed and familiar narratives).
But the gaps might be openings into our multi dimensionality
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There is a slim chance that dreams can actually be another reality, equally as real as the waking one.
H.P. Lovecraft has a bunch of stories now labelled as "The Dream Cycle" where there is this entire world, with cities and inhabitants and supernatural things and libraries filled with occult knowledge.
I am of the opinion that the dream state is one where the mind symbolizes it's experience in a way uniquely relatable to just you, and usually they are trying to show you answers to situations in your life. Other times I think dreams can represent things you are trying to repress, and obviously they can manifest fears and anxieties about life.
I don't dream often, but when I do... lol. When I do they are usually something that is very important, I have strong feelings about whatever it is that I dreamed and lately I have been trying to write it all down so I can have a clearer mind, perhaps by writing about them I can solve whatever it is my unconscious has been focusing on.
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I love dreams - even when they are very disturbing. I've heard something recently from a few interviews I've watched, that I find very interesting that I've never heard before - some people say they use hard drugs to avoid their dreams. They have an incredible aversion to dreams and hate them. How interesting. I guess another from of experiential avoidance? I've taken lots of drugs to avoid my experiences in waking life (difficult & disturbing emotions, memories, trauma, etc.), but I've never tried to avoid my dreams. Not that I know of.
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Kids tend to have quite visceral reactions to nightmares until they realize what a dream is -- a very temporary appearance.
Life is harder to take that perspective on, especially when you don't just "wake up" in a cozy bed, physically unharmed, after your first serious injury.
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