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OfflineHoodedForestDwellr
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Papaver somniferum
    #2893943 - 07/15/04 06:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I have been reading alot about poppies and have been pondering growing some. I know that poppies such as; Argemone mexicana & Eschscholzia californica are legal to grow...so the question is: Can I legally grow some Papaver somniferum? Oviously bleeding/harvesting poppies would be illegal. Peace.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #2894050 - 07/15/04 06:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

im not sure about in Cali, but here in Canada, there legal as long as you don't slice the pod


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: funkymonk]
    #2894114 - 07/15/04 07:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well you can slice the pod aslogn as your intent is not to harvest the ooie goodness.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: the man]
    #2895917 - 07/16/04 04:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Its a grey area really. But YES it is legal to grow. In fact, Major seed distributors like Burpee seed company sell opium poppy seeds TO GROW. They even mention in their catalog "this species is grown especially for its low morphine content" hahaha. If it looks like your going to use them as a drug then you may get harrassed but the fact is , its unlikely. I dont believe there have been too many people prosecuted for it. Besides.. You could say you bought some Orientalis seeds from walmart and this is what came up.. This can be a good alliby if it comes up in court because they will have to get some botanists to identify it .. (ok im starting to not make sense.. late and doped..)

so yes.. grow grow grow.. just dont harvest.

(im sure that in some states their individual law may state that it is illegal to grow, but still the likelihood of getting busted isn't too high)


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2898322 - 07/16/04 10:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

"so yes.. grow grow grow.. just dont harvest." --- thats the plan


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #2898408 - 07/16/04 11:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Can anyone recomend a specific kind of O Poppy...whats grows fast, alkaloid content, Pod size ect...

Persian White/Blue?
Hens and Chicks?
or this 'Giganteum strain'?


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #2898427 - 07/16/04 11:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hens and chicks.... AWESOME yields...


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: CptnGarden]
    #2898433 - 07/16/04 11:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

sweet...I'm pondering...getting all three and trying them


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #2898722 - 07/17/04 01:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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HoodedForestDwellr said:
I have been reading alot about poppies and have been pondering growing some. I know that poppies such as; Argemone mexicana & Eschscholzia californica are legal to grow...so the question is: Can I legally grow some Papaver somniferum? Oviously bleeding/harvesting poppies would be illegal. Peace.




Just for info, its kinda late to start an outdoor grow in the PNW.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: mycoguy]
    #2900405 - 07/17/04 06:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Whats months should I plant if it was to be outside then? cool a PNW myco group...


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #2900924 - 07/17/04 11:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

There are  2 times of year in which you can plant.

Spring, and Fall.

However since poppies drop thier seeds NATUALLY at around the end of summer/fall.
You can plant early, like the end of august, or even earlier.

when it comes to guerilla style planting.....if it doesnt rain, all you have done is set things up. :wink:

Spring planted poppies mature in the summer, while fall planted poppies grow durring winter....srping and then bloom in the summer.

Some people do both(i.e. sow  in  spring and fall )

Some say that fall planted plants are  better..... but a spring planted plant is quite nice to. :wink:  (sip.....sip.......sip :laugh: )

BUT ITS NOT SRPING(righ now), so get out there with your seeds and go sow ....sow .....SOW :thumbup:  (mid august is okay, but early september(IMO) is perfect, on the west coast) but if its dry planting early just means less work later, and the west coast seems dry this year, keep your fingers crossed for a nice and wet mushroom season this fall people. :tongue:



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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2905373 - 07/19/04 02:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

great, thanks for the info Psilocybe


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: funkymonk]
    #10250911 - 04/28/09 07:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

whether its legal or not i just bought about 50 seeds of mixed papiver somniferum var. peony's and 50 seeds of Hens and chicks peony's .  i wondering what to expect , it is the end of april, probably not the best time to plant  but whatever,  can i still expect a decent growt? its cool out and quite sunny , im hoping for quite a few healthy papaver's  what are you thoughts?


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: KinkRa]
    #10250962 - 04/28/09 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

start them now they need cool weather to germinate I've had them sprout 34-60's although if it's too warm they won't germinate as easily.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: KinkRa]
    #10251037 - 04/28/09 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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KinkRa said:
whether its legal or not i just bought about 50 seeds of mixed papiver somniferum var. peony's and 50 seeds of Hens and chicks peony's .  i wondering what to expect , it is the end of april, probably not the best time to plant  but whatever,  can i still expect a decent growt? its cool out and quite sunny , im hoping for quite a few healthy papaver's  what are you thoughts?




Depends on where you live, but in most places it's a little late. I think you can still get a decent grow now, you'll just have to water like a madman when the temps get really high. If not, try again in late August, haha.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: KinkRa]
    #10251267 - 04/28/09 08:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Why did you resurrect this thread.  :spank:


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #10251345 - 04/28/09 08:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Amberica said:
Why did you resurrect this thread.  :spank:




Wow, I didn't even notice the thread necromancy going on here.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: KinkRa]
    #10251703 - 04/28/09 09:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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whether its legal or not i just bought about 50 seeds of mixed papiver somniferum var. peony's and 50 seeds of Hens and chicks peony's .  i wondering what to expect , it is the end of april, probably not the best time to plant  but whatever,  can i still expect a decent growt? its cool out and quite sunny , im hoping for quite a few healthy papaver's  what are you thoughts?




Seeds are legal. You may be able to get them going still depends on you zone. Next time start a new thread. No need getting all Jesus about it.

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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: KinkRa]
    #10252744 - 04/29/09 12:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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KinkRa said:
whether its legal or not i just bought about 50 seeds of mixed papiver somniferum var. peony's and 50 seeds of Hens and chicks peony's .  i wondering what to expect , it is the end of april, probably not the best time to plant  but whatever,  can i still expect a decent growt? its cool out and quite sunny , im hoping for quite a few healthy papaver's  what are you thoughts?




fistly: welcome to the forum KinkRa, please take time to read the forum rules that are stickied at the top of the forum.

this thread is ancient history, please do not bump any more old threads, it is considered bad form.


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Re: Papaver somniferum [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #10252750 - 04/29/09 12:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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