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 Phred
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 Re: I talked to a soldier today  [Re: ]
#2911794 - 07/21/04 09:47 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not saying that this guy was pulling your chain, but I do find it interesting that no one seems to have considered the possibility that he was. It is not unusual at all for soldiers to exaggerate or even fabricate incidents for the purpose of appearing macho -- or just for kicks.
I've been a bartender for years and have heard just about every imaginable pickup line out there. I've heard guys I know for a fact have never served in the military pretend to be veterans while trying to hit on chicks. I've seen guys who are quite obviously too young to have served in Viet Nam pretend they did, and I've heard guys who were nothing more than filing clerks Stateside pretend they had seen combat. For some reason, a lot of folks like to say they were Navy SEALS. For an elite group, there sure seem to be a lot of ex-SEALS passing through Cabarete.
I also know many real Viet Nam vets, and some of them (not a lot, but some) do sometimes get a kick out of telling outrageous (and false) stories of the supposed atrocities they committed. Don't ask me to explain why they enjoy it -- I am no psychologist -- I just know they seem to.
Again, let me repeat that I am not dismissing out of hand this guy's comments. Maybe he did do exactly what he said he did. But maybe he's the kind of guy who gets a kick out of telling total strangers what a bad-ass stone cold macho killer he is.
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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: mntlfngrs]
#2911881 - 07/21/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should we have just walked away after doing all that shit? Or clean up the mess?
Not sure what the americans have cleaned up. The Karzai government's power extends about as far as the bottom of the street in Kabul. The brutal Northern Alliance are in control of the rest of the country.
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Phred
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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Xlea321]
#2911900 - 07/21/04 10:21 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seeing as how the deposition of the Taliban by an international coalition of countries was a UN-approved action and that the UN has the responsibility of arranging elections in Afghanistan, I find it more than a little amusing that so many people on this forum are calling for more UN involvement in Iraq. They've done just such a great job in Afghanistan, haven't they?
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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Xlea321]
#2911905 - 07/21/04 10:22 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Alex123 said:
Should we have just walked away after doing all that shit? Or clean up the mess?
Not sure what the americans have cleaned up. The Karzai government's power extends about as far as the bottom of the street in Kabul. The brutal Northern Alliance are in control of the rest of the country.
So walk away then?
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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Phred]
#2912183 - 07/21/04 11:51 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not saying that this guy was pulling your chain, but I do find it interesting that no one seems to have considered the possibility that he was.
Got back in shroomery history to see where I "predicted" exactly this type of thing because "the enemy" and "the people to be liberated" are visually indistinguishable.
I knew many Viet Nam vets (and as a Viet Nam era vet myself, who saw no action) who got "trigger happy". Two things:
1. Once moral barriers are broken (killing), all-too-often a complete collapse of ANY ethical code ensues.
2. When in survival mode nearly all the time where the slightest hesitation or miscalculation will get you killed, one will kill at the slightest hint of a threat - either real or imagined.
In conclusion: yes, he might have been fabricating, but the story's essence is highly believable,
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