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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Aldous]
    #2893153 - 07/15/04 01:14 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I hear you and this is a tough subject because I think to a certain extent they have the right to defend themselves via any means. BUT in the end they endangered all the civilians by doing that, and that displays a total disregard for their people. If them people were so motivated they could have joined the Army to protect their country. They didn't so I assume they were not to upset that Saddam would more than likely be removed.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Aldous]
    #2893154 - 07/15/04 01:14 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

If they dont want their civilians shot at, yes.

dont be a fucking moron.

If the enemy chooses to dress civlian, then well MYTERIOUSLY the army is going to RESPOND to it, by killing them.

I'm sure since you are obviously the worlds greatest planner, leader, all-knower of warfare, you have a perfect solution to such. Please fix the world.

thank you.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893268 - 07/15/04 02:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

that explains shooting people just for sport,when
they clearly don't pose any threat, doesn't it?

yee haw!


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: ]
    #2893284 - 07/15/04 02:12 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

That dude would have twisted your head off right after your fist hit him. Killers got no remorse and anything that fucks with them gets no mercy.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893308 - 07/15/04 02:22 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mndfreeze said:


If the enemy chooses to dress civlian, then well MYTERIOUSLY the army is going to RESPOND to it, by killing them.

I seriously doubt they are chooseing to dress "civlian". I'm going to assum thats most of them at one point were Civlians who decided to form a militia of sorts probably joining up with ex. military leaders under saddam for weapons and ammo in retaliation towards the american forces read: invading their country. Maybe if they had the training and the proper funding to get uniforms I'm sure they'd wear them.

Plus, according to his story the man they killed was just making noice and he was unarmed and posed no physicial threat. and Come on, we've already seen PLENTY of evidence that the soliders in Iraq are eaither not properly supervised or not properly trained.



I'm sure since you are obviously the worlds greatest planner, leader, all-knower of warfare, you have a perfect solution to such. Please fix the world.
hm.. he's not, but he's got a point. Invading Iraq was totally againt many international laws. Bush have NO evidence of WMDs in Iraq or that they were in any ways connected to terriost attacks. Not a bit of physicial evidence, Thats why he got little to NO support from the world. Even the UN was like.. "uhh no!" Thats why the countries who did "help" only sent like 200 troops compared to the thousands we send. hah! its a fucking joke.. bush is a joke
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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: ]
    #2893452 - 07/15/04 03:09 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard people tell stories like this here before. I wish somebody would get these fuckers on tape and get them charged with crimes.

Seriously, if you can get a recorded confession of any of these fuckers fucking do it.

Oh, and let me know if that fucker gets killed over there so I can celebrate.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: ]
    #2893508 - 07/15/04 03:26 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I hate to say, but this was another "prediction" that I made on here early on. I compared the Iraqi War to the Viet Nam War in that in both conflicts, we were allegedly there to protect the common people, but because "the enemy" was indistinguishable from the common people, that when in doubt, soldiers would shoot first, then ask questions later.

These "accidental" killings would harden the soldiers until it became OK to kill for almost any reason. All moral boundaries dissolve. It is then v-e-r-y easy for incidents like the My Lai Massacre and other atrocities to occur.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Swami]
    #2893526 - 07/15/04 03:32 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

with all due respect...

don't break your elbow patting yourself on the back.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: ]
    #2893548 - 07/15/04 03:37 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard similar stories before, but I also know some good people in the military. I know this one couple that's in the marines, and they're some of the nicest people I've ever met. They're shipping off to Iraq soon, even though they oppose the war and George W. Bush. It must take a lot of love for your country to fight in a war you oppose.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: afoaf]
    #2893569 - 07/15/04 03:43 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
that explains shooting people just for sport,when
they clearly don't pose any threat, doesn't it?

yee haw!




I nver said a damn thing about sport killing people.

way to try to put words in my mouth though!


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893571 - 07/15/04 03:44 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mndfreeze said:I'm sure since you are obviously the worlds greatest planner, leader, all-knower of warfare, you have a perfect solution to such. Please fix the world.


Thanks for the compliments.

The solution is to not start the problem.
Instead of fixing the world, avoid fucking it up even more than it's already fucked up.
By not starting any illegal invasion wars for reasons that cannot be said aloud, for instance.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: afoaf]
    #2893582 - 07/15/04 03:48 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

It is not boasting, it as about studying and understanding history. I am not proud, I am deeply saddened by the whole mess.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: blu3]
    #2893594 - 07/15/04 03:51 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

the fact of the matter remains, no matter WHICH WAR or WHY THE WAR IS GOING ON that if the enemy picks up a different dress style, that dress style will soon be labled as 'the enemy' and probably get you SHOT for looking such.

I'm sorry common logic does not agree with some people here on why civilians die, especially in wars such as this one where guerilla tactics are used.

I'm not here to argue for the fuckstick who enjoys killing people, I never agreed with that. I merely pointed out civilians running around with guns = dead fucking civilians.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Aldous]
    #2893596 - 07/15/04 03:52 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Aldous said:
Quote:

mndfreeze said:I'm sure since you are obviously the worlds greatest planner, leader, all-knower of warfare, you have a perfect solution to such. Please fix the world.


Thanks for the compliments.

The solution is to not start the problem.
Instead of fixing the world, avoid fucking it up even more than it's already fucked up.
By not starting any illegal invasion wars for reasons that cannot be said aloud, for instance.




why cant it be said out loud?

worried about they?


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893598 - 07/15/04 03:53 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I don't blame soldiers for accidentally killing civilians when it's hard to tell who the enemy is, but you have to admit the guy Fiend talked to is a major asshole.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: silversoul7]
    #2893606 - 07/15/04 03:56 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I never once stated otherwise. As far as I'm concerned he should be shot in the face, perferably by an iraqie civilian.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893646 - 07/15/04 04:13 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

why cant it be said out loud?

worried about they?


I don't understand what you mean, you must have missed my point. It's Bush and his clique who were afraid or ashamed to tell the real reasons for their war aloud. They had to resort to weak excuses like WMD and Al-Qaeda links, which both predictably turned out to be rubbish.

Me, I've got nothing to hide, I can say anything out loud, and no "they" could worry me.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Barbi]
    #2893700 - 07/15/04 04:41 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mndfreeze said:
I never once stated otherwise. As far as I'm concerned he should be shot in the face, perferably by an iraqie civilian.




k, well, after stating:

Quote:

Well, personally, if 'their' army stopped wearing uniforms to be sneaky, then THEY make civilians into a possibly enemy.




it seemed like you were justifying the various accounts
of murder simply because the enemy doesn't wear
uniforms and neither do the civilians.

you did not make it abundantly clear that you opposed
the senseless slaughter of civilians before you made that
statement, especiallly when you take into account some
of your other 'war is war' type responses in recent months.

I didn't put any words in your mouth, that was just how I
interpreted the seeming callousness of your initial response.


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: ]
    #2893864 - 07/15/04 05:54 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

He shoulda killed more


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Re: I talked to a soldier today [Re: Redo]
    #2893870 - 07/15/04 05:56 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Please tell me you're joking.


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