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OfflineTiny
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Moisture in My Grow Bags
    #28899942 - 08/04/24 01:47 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Hello Community

I'm using rye magic bags and my mycelium has populated about 90% of my bags after about 8 weeks of growing in the dark at 75 degrees and busting up the substrate at 40% coverage. In the last week a lot of moisture has shown up in the bags and a tiny amount of yellow staining on the mycelium around the uncolonized substrate.  There are still (10%) of the substrate uncolonized.

1.)  Should I be worried about the moisture and yellow staining?
2.)  I feel it is time to open the bags and start the fruiting process.  Should I go to fruiting now?

Thank you.

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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny]
    #28899951 - 08/04/24 01:55 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Post some photos, this sounds like bacterial contamination.

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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny]
    #28899976 - 08/04/24 02:15 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Sounds contaminated, and I'm pretty sure it is by the way you described it. Post pics.

Are they all in one bags you just buy online? When I first started that's what I started with and they always got contaminated 100 percent of the time.


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny] * 1
    #28900113 - 08/04/24 03:46 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

You did a great job of describing a contaminated bag. Extra moisture, different color, 8 weeks and it's not 100%.

I'd cut it open and hope for something. Might just get mush instead of mushrooms if you leave it closed up.

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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Bigdogg]
    #28900512 - 08/05/24 12:11 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Just noticed he said 8 weeks. That's way too long.


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny]
    #28900519 - 08/05/24 12:16 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27187543/vc/1/nt/49

That should help you

But if you post some pictures we can help as well


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny]
    #28900820 - 08/05/24 09:04 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)





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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tri]
    #28900821 - 08/05/24 09:06 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Pictures attached now

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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tri]
    #28900946 - 08/05/24 11:20 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Pictures posted now

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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Tiny]
    #28900969 - 08/05/24 11:36 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Meh, I've seen worse. Looks like they were probably prepped too wet IMO.  That didn't help.  Great way to ensure bacteria takes a solid foothold given that huge mass of grain.  Let em finish colonizing, break em open, and smell.  If it finishes colonizing I'd spawn it anyway.  No sense not waiting on them to finish after 8 weeks :shrug:. Bacteria isn't always a deal breaker.  Just not optimal, and will make for a greater chance of a competitor (mold) taking hold prior to first flush.  You don't want uncolonized grains in your bulk, though. 


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #28901027 - 08/05/24 12:21 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Check this out.. The other jar has been fully colonized for a few days now, but with this jar I have been waiting for the top to fully colonize for a couple days now, but it seems like a few grains on the top dried up and I'm not noticing much growth. You said we shouldn't spawn uncolonized grains, but with these very few grains that are uncolonized, can this be an exception?




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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #28901048 - 08/05/24 12:36 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Yeah that jar looks decent actually.  Often there are a couple grains on top that don't colonize (they dry out).  No problem.  I just wouldn't leave a patch of them in a bag that looked bacterial at the outset, and the uncolonized patches were like center mass and obviously not just dehydrated.


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
    #28901055 - 08/05/24 12:37 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Thank you πŸ™πŸ½


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Re: Moisture in My Grow Bags [Re: Jrey16]
    #28901063 - 08/05/24 12:41 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

An afterthought (ffr): one of the reasons it's really important to not spawn when a patch is uncolonized is because although you're viewing the uncolonized portion in essentially 2d, a 3d representation would reveal that the area is larger than is represented.  Sometimes there's a whole "vein" of uncolonized grain going a good way in.


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