Home | Community | Message Board

Kratom Eye
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
HELP, side pins, aborts, etc.
    #28892666 - 07/29/24 05:52 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Hello, this is my second time cultivating shrooms, sorry in advance for bad english
So, at first i didnt block the light in the side of the tub neither did i pack it hard so they started to grow on the sides. As soon as i noticed that i corrected it, i dont know if its too late. Long story short, i have alot of side pins but they all stopped growing, is this bad bad? am i going to loose alot of harvest because of it? how could i take them out? im afraid since the cake is kinda big if i pull it out and place in a bigger tub i might damage it

btw these are MDK apparently

I just harvested the first shroom cause it was getting too big and was pushing the top of the tub (wich i have loosely put in to let air come in, since i read that somewhere) and have it on the top of my pc fan since i leave it on all day, but my seller recomended i put them on the air fryer at around 100F for several hours

here are some pictures








Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleItsLinkNotZelda
Meat Popsicle
Registered: 01/20/24
Posts: 69
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28892733 - 07/29/24 06:49 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

If you have another tub the same size next time you can put a tub on top upside down to dub tub it and let the mushrooms continue to grow.

Light doesn't cause side pins, having pockets of air between your substrate and tub/bag gives them the perfect environment to grow. You can leave the side pins and the mycelium will start to reclaim it, or if they are getting bigger and making it to maturity you can always float your cake so you can harvest them a little easier. Just fill the tub up and let it float to the top of the tub so you can harvest the top and sides a little better.

You can try to avoid side pins by using a liner next time. Personally I don't mind side pins. They can get pretty big. I've had ones grow from under the cake all the way up the side and up to the lid of the shoebox.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28892734 - 07/29/24 06:50 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Should i
1.- try to harvest those side pins
2.- leave em there, maybe they grow? (its been 3 days and they havent grown that much specially compared to the top ones that seem to be on crack)
3.- try to pull the whole cake out and place it in a bigger tub?

Edited by therevenge123 (07/29/24 07:09 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: ItsLinkNotZelda]
    #28892736 - 07/29/24 06:51 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

So i can just put water on it and it will float and not damage the ones in the top that are already growing?
can the side pins "rot" and ruin it all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGoatrider
Rhythm Guitarist
Male


Registered: 04/08/20
Posts: 4,801
Loc: Germany
Trusted Cultivator
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28892821 - 07/29/24 08:07 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Quote:

therevenge123 said:
Should i
1.- try to harvest those side pins




Harvest the top surface. Take a tub same size and place it in.
Flip the tub over and let the cake rest on the second tub.
Harvest side pins now.


Quote:

therevenge123 said:
Should i
2.- leave em there, maybe they grow? (its been 3 days and they havent grown that much specially compared to the top ones that seem to be on crack)




They grow bigger like the ones on top,
they´ll just look a little squashed, don´t worry.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: Goatrider]
    #28892823 - 07/29/24 08:11 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

thanks its just that i was a little worried since its been 3 days and they remain the same size i guess ill just wait it out
is there a chance they rot and ruin it all?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGoatrider
Rhythm Guitarist
Male


Registered: 04/08/20
Posts: 4,801
Loc: Germany
Trusted Cultivator
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28892875 - 07/29/24 09:03 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

Give them some more time.
If they abort, they get black caps.
They don´t rot that fast.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: Goatrider]
    #28892927 - 07/29/24 09:55 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

black caps are eatable?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegolfin_ernie
¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪♥♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/13/10
Posts: 601
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28892939 - 07/29/24 10:13 PM (5 months, 16 days ago)

If I get a bunch of side pins I float the cake and put it in a bigger tub.    Let the side pins grow.   


--------------------
My name isn't Ernie and I have never played golf.

Edited by golfin_ernie (07/29/24 10:16 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGoatrider
Rhythm Guitarist
Male


Registered: 04/08/20
Posts: 4,801
Loc: Germany
Trusted Cultivator
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28893207 - 07/30/24 06:37 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Quote:

therevenge123 said:
black caps are eatable?




Yes.
Once the caps turn black they won´t be supported by the network anymore,
they become aborts and won´t grow further.
Nothing wrong with them.

Black and slimy would be different :wink:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEzza13420
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 6
Last seen: 11 hours, 50 minutes
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28893254 - 07/30/24 07:20 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Hello! My GTs don’t seem to be doing that well, started looking promising with many pins but have only had around 15 shrooms since then and now may look like they want to abort or are struggling or already are aborts. Idk what to do I don’t really want to soak as it’s in liner and just long messy process😂😂😫
( have harvested the ready shrooms in pics but they didn’t get as big as my first grow last year .



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlexandrDughin
Explorer
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/30/23
Posts: 213
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: Ezza13420]
    #28893353 - 07/30/24 08:30 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

One thing i've noticed on my grows is that :
starting from multi-spore
- i get a pinset
- they start to grow
- some get to mature, big fruits
- some get to mature, small fruits
- some don't get to maturity and get aborted.

But this sequence is like a cycle
the big fruits and small ones break their veils at the same time more or less ( +- 1/2 days)
the pins that did not make it to "maturity" will get aborted regardless if i let them on after i harvest the big ones.

This cycle resets after a 12-24 hour dunk and another 7 days of "rest".

then i get another pinset, new growth, etc

and this cycle repeats on every flush.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEzza13420
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 6
Last seen: 11 hours, 50 minutes
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: AlexandrDughin]
    #28893373 - 07/30/24 08:52 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Do you take off and use the aborts ? Or leave on ? Thanks

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlexandrDughin
Explorer
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/30/23
Posts: 213
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: Ezza13420]
    #28893440 - 07/30/24 09:55 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

I harvest as much of the aborts as i can with my fingers, the rest, that are too small to pick by hand i just leave them on.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: golfin_ernie]
    #28893926 - 07/30/24 04:41 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Well i just did this
Hope that is okay, anything i should look foward/prevent or something, its such a big tub idk about the humidity, should i just leave water on the bottom because it wont even touch the cake?
also it may be for nothing cause the side pins all seem to be dead, also the top pins only 2 are maturing the rest seem stuck again, idk whats going on at least theyre biggies lol

would i get more luck on my second flush or is this gg?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlexandrDughin
Explorer
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/30/23
Posts: 213
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 28 days, 10 hours
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28894399 - 07/31/24 01:15 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

I usually use a setup like this :


and also get lots of side pins, and pins growing on the bottom, but i just gave up on trying to stop them and i let the micellium do it's thing.

As for what you can do on your cake i can only give the general advices:

Keep the humidity high
Keep the corect surface conditions prior to pinning
Mist ONLY if needed
Be sure that temperatures don't go crazy high 35-40°Celsius
and generally just leave the thing closed into it's box and don't tinker too much with it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEzza13420
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 6
Last seen: 11 hours, 50 minutes
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28896034 - 08/01/24 07:01 AM (5 months, 13 days ago)

Should I remove all and then dunk or just mist and wait (first flush) thanks!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetherevenge123
Stranger
Registered: 07/29/24
Posts: 7
Last seen: 5 months, 8 days
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28896248 - 08/01/24 10:07 AM (5 months, 13 days ago)

submerged the cake for a second flush and water turned yellow, this bad?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGoatrider
Rhythm Guitarist
Male


Registered: 04/08/20
Posts: 4,801
Loc: Germany
Trusted Cultivator
Re: HELP, side pins, aborts, etc. [Re: therevenge123]
    #28897017 - 08/01/24 08:09 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)

Most likely the coir lost its colour a bit.
How big is the tub?
Shoebox or 12qt?
As i started out, i dunked everything,
until i noticed waterlogging several times.
After that i switched to heavy misting
until it pools a little on the surface.
Repeat until it doesn´t absorb anymore and pour off excessives.
The cake absorbs what it needs.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Too many pins/aborts DieCommie 7,360 13 04/08/04 01:17 PM
by Tremor1127
* Pins aborted and Cake Contams! =( Addict 4,351 1 05/13/02 05:40 PM
by Shroomasta
* Misting Cake Cause Pin Aborts? MushyMan 5,861 8 04/01/03 08:52 AM
by Diploid
* all pins aborted Mushroom_X 2,658 6 04/04/03 07:17 AM
by mikejwill
* Pinning stage through harvest shroominsherman 2,304 6 03/20/03 04:04 AM
by shroominsherman
* Cleaning A Casing After Harvest Teknion 1,050 1 02/12/04 12:09 PM
by alienated
* Hmmm.Contaminated Aborts??? Safe to ingest? Vel 2,162 1 05/16/03 02:09 AM
by kykeon
* Contamination after harvest? Please Help ShroomRider 1,279 1 05/10/02 07:47 PM
by phrozendata

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
269 topic views. 14 members, 76 guests and 75 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2025 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 12 queries.