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OfflineNesteaa
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Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do?
    #28884963 - 07/24/24 02:32 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Hello friends,
im new to this hobby, but sucked up all the information here on the board and on youtube very fast.

before that, i went to the netherlands and tried hollandia truffle. 10g. this was my first experience ever with psychedelics. and it was unbelievable. i cant explain it. visuals, emotions, peaceful thoughts.

After this experience, i wanted to grow my own cubensis. so i picked up a spore print, "Cubensis McKennai" and started this hobby.

I started with 2 multispore agar plates. Transferred 3-4 times, until i got nice clean rhizomorphic grow. I inoculated some grain jars with this plates and 2 weeks later spawned to bulk. 5 shoeboxes.

3 of them had nice flushes. 2 of them not so. a lot of pins, but the mushrooms were super tiny, twisted, warped etc. i was not able to harvest that shit.

after all, i harvested everything. used my food dehydrator on low heat for 24 hours, dried and stored with silica bags in a jar.

i tried my harvest 3 times now. first, as a tea. i strained the pieces out and drank the tea....nothing happened.

2. time i ate 20g fresh after harvest. something happend. but not so much. it was maybe like half of my 10g truffle experience. a slightly boost of my mood, like its a great day. but no visuals etc.

3. time i ate 3,3g. dried with some orange juice. something happened. it was less intense than the 20g wet. but this time it was a little spooky, negative thoughts etc. but not so strong, manageable. after 2 hours this part was gone, and i was left with a mushy brain, hangover like. next morning i had a bad headache.

so its very disappoint for me, because i spent so much time, money and energy. and got so less back.
Im happy, that my first experience with truffles was so great, so i know it can work, there is a way to get this great experience. If my own harvest were my first experience, i would think.. "oh, ok, this is mushrooms?, no thanks, never again".

i dont want to start over and over again with multispore until i get a good batch. it takes so long.

my plan is to go back to the netherlands, grab a box of hollandia truffle again, and then clone the tissue to get, consistent, commercial grade truffles every time.

what do you think? any advice for me?

At this moment im disappointed with cubensis.

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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: Nesteaa] * 1
    #28884974 - 07/24/24 03:19 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Just grow P.mexicana then not stone clone from them. Nothing better then P.mexicana fruit anyway.


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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: vicepope]
    #28884976 - 07/24/24 03:28 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Where are you?

Where did you get the spores from?

Sounds like you are doing everything right?

3.3g of cubensis would have me on the floor chatting away with the deity that decided to come along and impart its wisdom.

More than that would have taken me to the pulsating place where my mind would have been twisted.


Maybe try again with a different spore print, from a different vendor?

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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: Hugh Jass]
    #28884982 - 07/24/24 03:53 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Mexicana spores are hard to get for me. But i can find the stones here in netherlands very easy. i bought the print in a smartshop here in the netherlands. Have a pan cyan print laying around, but i think it would be too challenging for me as a beginner for now. maybe in the future. Dont want to deal with horse manure and exact humidity etc. 

Yes, i expected way more from 3,3g.
I made 3 or 4 transfers from MS. Maybe i cutted out sectors, that where not so potent. but there should be enough different genetics in there, to bring up some potent ones..i dont know.
i have all my harvest dry in 2 jars.
Maybe i should powderize everything to get a consistent potency. But im worried, about the surface area, and that they loose potency over the month. for now its just luck. i take randomly 3-4 dried shroomes, which are looking fine and eat them. cant tell if they are potent or not before.

i dont really get the way on starting with MS, finding a potent mushroom and cloning it. This would mean, randomly picking for example 5 fruit bodies, cloning them, and tripping with each clone to tell, which is potent. this would take ages. i dont want to eat mushrooms every 2 weeks, just to look if they are potent and a good clone or not.

whats wrong about cloning a commercial stone, when i had a good experience with it in the first place.
i would prepare 12 half pint jars, and every time i want to trip, i crack open one jar and eat them fresh.

Edited by Nesteaa (07/24/24 03:58 AM)

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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: Nesteaa] * 2
    #28885014 - 07/24/24 05:05 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

1.  Get a better spore source and get decent genetics.  Never trust a vendor that sells spores named McKennai as it's not even a real variety of cubensis - it's just some bullshit a marketing guy put together to sell random cubensis spores to noobs. 

2.  Learn how to properly dehydrate your mushrooms.  You want HIGH heat (160-170f) for 24 hours or until they crumble to dust when squeezed between your fingers.  Leaving moisture in them will degrade the potency and will dramatically alter the actual active content you are taking when you think you are taking 3g.

3.  Fresh fruits are always more intense than dried even when properly dried.

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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: Nesteaa]
    #28890209 - 07/28/24 06:43 AM (5 months, 17 days ago)

Honestly, McKenaii was my strongest ever cubensis posible to get.. Ive spent 6 months to save those genetics by transfering them from lc to agar, to lc, to agar and again agar agar agar just to save it from contamination.. And I still have them till this day in fridge.
Even 0.8g as first I considered to be microdose gave me full of visuals and completely wrecked my microdosing experiment..
You must BE fake spores, because this is one of the most potent variety you can have easy access to. It must have visuals, I had insanity with them, cant believe someone cant get effects of them.
I saw some pictures here people saying "i bough mckennaii grow kit" when i check those mushrooms they loked nowhere close to how mckenaii looks like. It was fake penis envy grow kit labeled as McKennaii.

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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: CosmicIguana] * 1
    #28891051 - 07/28/24 03:33 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

I would try a different and reputable vendor to get your MSS, LC, or prints.

Sorry for the "beat" fruits, but at least you saw the process through and know what it takes to get a decent harvest. :thumbup:


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Re: Disappointing experience with my first harvest. What can i do? [Re: zendigits]
    #28891188 - 07/28/24 05:48 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

Have pics?


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