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Invisiblejonneill
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More "not fully colonised" and observations about myc
    #2887335 - 07/13/04 09:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It has been about 30 days since innoculation, I have seen no obvious signs of contamination... I thought at first I might have cobweb, but since growth did not stop -- indeed, it accelerated -- and since the "cobweb" eventually filled out quite healthily I am sure the cakes have no contamination.

I would say that the jars are more than 60% colonised where I can see, but this is probably closer to 85% or even higher within the total mass of the cake. I say this because where I can't see there are a great many ropy strands of mycelium coming through and filling in, completely apart from any visible connection to an existing mycelium mass.

I just today turned the jars upside down. I have noticed some small condensation on the inside of the jar, around where the mycelium has grown most aggressively, and the war is completely clear and everything looks quite healthy. The mycelium is beginning to turn a slightly less brilliant shade of white and is getting a little fuzzier -- less ropy -- as it fills out what it's grown in... I think I'm seeing "myc piss" as the discolouration.

Anyhow, I have no specific cause for concern for the cakes, I am going to wait and see if they finish up and colonize completely, but if they don't finish within another couple of weeks I plan on going ahead with the crumble and case as if they were fully done.

One observation: it seems to me that there are three distinct "forms" of mycelium that I can see. One is brilliant white, ropy, almost like white sewing thread. It runs through the substrate in no particular pattern. Another is very ropy, but tends to grow in large spherical or semicircular patterns, quite beautiful, still white. The third starts out, again, the same brilliant white, but turns yellowish with myc piss... it fills out the areas "found" by the other two kinds, and grows in more of a mass than a ropy pattern.

My theory, from these observations, is that each kind serves a purpose.

The first is a kind of feelers, to help the fungus explore its substrate and get a foothold on it, and to later ship around nutrients and wastes for the fungus, like a circulatory system.

The second is to propel it into growth in areas where it's really needed: spores, after germinating, seem to always produce the semicircular/spherical explosion of thick, ropy mycelium before they start exploring the substrate... this seems to be the kind that is healthiest, but probably couldn't be sustained in all but the most high-nutrient substrates. I suspect that it is where the pinning eventually begins, and pictures seem to suggest this to me also.

The third is a "lesser grade" kind mycelium that fills out the substrate and helps fight off invaders, leech nutrients, etc, but its growth is much less explosive, and it also seems to be around where the myc piss accumulates.

Anyhow, just voicing my speculations from watching this stuff colonize, from explosive growth to a crawl and back to explosive and now crawling again.


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Invisiblejonneill
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Re: More "not fully colonised" and observations about myc [Re: jonneill]
    #2887345 - 07/13/04 09:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That was my 100th post btw, here's hoping it's lucky =]


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